re: SCOTUS rules against Muslim in religious equality case

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I wold've ruled in favor of the muzzie here.

Religious freedom guaranteed by the first amendment is religious freedom guaranteed by the first amendment.

They should've allowed an imam there.

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THIS

I have given this about 2 minutes worth of thought - and on the surface, it makes no sense.

There must be more to it than what this thread contains. To me, it is impossible for the 5 conservatives to have supported this.

Has to be based on some peculiarly in the wording of the case.

The linked story leaves out the real issue, Alabama doesn't allow ANYONE to bring in any spiritual advisor.

Only department of correction officials are allowed to be in the room. The christian chaplain was such an official and was available to anyone. The Iman was a personal advisor.

He was not disallowed a Iman, he was disallowed anyone who was not an official.

Looks much worse than it was reported, or actually was.

" “It was bad enough that the court amended Ray’s pleadings for him. But worse still is that the court’s Establishment Clause analysis and proposed remedy make no sense. The Eleventh Circuit’s holding that the State had favored one denomination over another might make sense if the State allowed only Christians to bring their preferred spiritual advisers into the execution chamber, but the State forbids anyone who is not employed by ADOC into the execution chamber.”

The constitution says you're allowed a holy person to be with you wherever you are and whenever you want? hells yea.

Just a tip, always be a little suspicious of articles that only cite language from the dissent. It’s like they didn’t want to put forth the actual reasoning of the majority, because it may not fit the agenda of the article. Lo and behold:

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Attorneys for the state said only prison employees are allowed in the chamber for security reasons. Prison system spokesman Bob Horton said Ray was visited by his imam both Wednesday and Thursday. Ray’s imam, Yusef Maisonet, watched the execution from an adjoining witness room. There was no Christian chaplain in the chamber.

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Alabama had said it would allow for a Protestant chaplain to be in the execution chamber. The state said the chaplain is a state employee and a member of the execution team, and that permitting a member of the "free-world" into the room — such as Ray's imam — would raise security concerns.

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If they allow any they have to allow all. Just do away with having any religious folks at all.

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He’s still American

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Naw don't think so, he is an Infiltrator with the emphasis on Traitor

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I don't really give a shite about the rights of Muslim scumbags set to be executed. The state can have someone force bacon down his throat before they execute him, for all I care.

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You should do it, since you're such a badass.

From LINK

Marcus D. Owden, came forward and gave the police a full accounting of the events and circumstances surrounding the death of Tiffany Harville. Owden testified at [t]rial against the Defendant Ray that it was their intent to form a mob or a gang, and that they had intended to find Tiffany Harville for the purpose of having sex with her. Owden stated that he did not know Tiffany, but that Ray did and that it was Ray's idea to go and get Tiffany. Owden testified that they had talked about having sex with her before they went to her house to get her. On the evening of July 15, 1995, Owden and Ray picked Tiffany up and proceeded to take her to [the] Sardis community located in Dallas County, Alabama, on or near Highway 41. Owden stated that they had decided they were going to ask her for sex first, and if that didn't work, that they would take it. He described during his testimony how he and the Defendant Ray [had] had sex with her and how she [had] pleaded for help.

“ ‘Owden testified that Ray cut her throat and that he, Owden, cut her as well. He then described that they took part of her clothing along with her purse, which contained $6 or $7.

“ ‘In addition to the testimony of Marcus D. Owden, the State offered into evidence the statement of the Defendant, Dominique Ray. In his statement, he admits to his role in the rape and murder of Tiffany Harville, yet attempts to establish Owden as the primary perpetrator.

“ ‘Dr. [James] Lauridson, the State Medical Examiner with the Alabama Department of Forensic Sciences, described 12 defects in the skull which were consistent with stab-like defects. He [wa]s unable to testify with regard to soft tissue wounds, due to the decomposition of the body.” ’


frick Ray. I hope he's burning in Hell.

Would like to know more, but seems wrong.