re: SCOTUS (9-0): You can now own firearms and weed without reprecussions...

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if you didn't have property rights to your house, how would that make you freer?

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It’s not the socially constructed rights or lack thereof that restrict freedom; it’s the house itself. The house that comes with taxes, utilities, financing, maintenance, insurance repairs, etc etc.

I think your correlation between property rights and your perception of individual liberty might be a misinterpretation. The conditions of occupation (or what we might call ownership) just look different. Instead of the financial obligations most people have to sacrifice freedoms to fulfill (through labor), others sacrifice different liberties.

I appreciate the engagement. A lot of paternalism has been embedded in several responses to and about me that I find reductive and inconsiderate. I might be overly sensitive to comments made in good faith but idk. I’m psychoanalyzed all the time here. It gets old.

Ok, so if owning property isn't freedom an extension of individual liberty, freedom, what would be freedom when it comes to housing in your view?

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The freest humans are babies and kids who own nothing of meaningful value.

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The freest humans are the ones who are wholly dependent on others?

That is a wild definition of freedom.

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Ownership seems antithetical to freedom.

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I get what you're saying, in that some inanimate object isn't actually connected to us, isn't physically a part of us. That's a different concept than it being a natural right. A gun, or weapon, for instance, is just a manifestation of the right you have to self protection, the survival instinct, right? Property is that same kind of thing. A gun is property. A spear, or whatever other weapon. They (forms of self preservation) are fundamental concept of liberty, of being/remaining free. So, we don't have a right TO guns or homes, as in someone, somewhere must supply then to us, we have an innate right self defense, to shelter, we have a right to "try to secure" them. Sounds alike, but different concepts. One means, basically, you have a "right" to other people's labor, the other means you have a right to own one through your and someone else's free, voluntary trade.

I never knew this was an issue in Louisiana, as a teenager I hardly ever went deer hunting without my 30-06 and a quarter ounce of Mexican dirt weed.

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Babies are entirely dependent on others. That's not the freedom I want.


You are, too. It just looks different than diaper changes and bottles.

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What a stupid and offensive post. I've been working since I was 10. Don't project your weakness and dependency onto others. But hey, no hard feelings,, whip out your SNAP card and have a box of Twinkies on me.

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Adults depend on thousands of strangers.

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Children depend on the police to keep them safe from predators...
Adults depend on police to put dangerous people away for good.

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We have an ability to possess something at a given moment. I don’t think we have a “natural right” to possess anything in perpetuity, or even for some prolonged amount of time that outlasts one’s immediate need for the object. That actually seems extremely unnatural to me.

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Marx smiles from below.

The you are fine with 5 yr olds owning and possesing a gun? No restrictions, right?