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re: Science is debunking itself again
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:51 pm to ThuperThumpin
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:51 pm to ThuperThumpin
I believe in God and that science has revealed much about both the workings of the universe and the way that life has developed and flourished here on earth, including human life. I will never understand how so many supposedly sincere believers want to reduce God to an unsolved X in an equation and don’t think that’s taking His name in vain
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:52 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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When followed completely, all roads of scientific thought lead to a dead-end at some point where a true scientist MUST accept the only logical answer is: GOD.
Lol. I say it's true so it must be true. Right.
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sumtimeitbeslikedat
Sumtimesitdont
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:54 pm to PurpleSingularity
Posted on 9/20/23 at 12:58 pm to MAADFACTS
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I will never understand how so many supposedly sincere believers want to reduce God to an unsolved X in an equation and don’t think that’s taking His name in vain
Good point. Perhaps they lack faith.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:29 pm to titmouse
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You realize Big Bang was first theorized by a priest right?
This is not a secret, people know this
Does being a priest have relevance to make it more or less believable?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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I never said a word of that. Why am I being quoted?
titmouse does not understand how the Internet works
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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Oh? Link? (or should I say Missing Link?)
This is the first time we can detect the actual signal of Neanderthal ancestry in Africans,” said Lu Chen, a postdoctoral research associate at Princeton’s Lewis-Sigler Institute for Integrative Genomics (LSI) and a co-author of a new paper that published Thursday in the journal Cell.
Joshua Akey, a professor at LSI who led the study, suggested their findings cast doubt on the widely held “out of Africa” theory of human migration
This ancient group of Europeans then migrated into Africa, introducing Neanderthal ancestry to African populations.
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Survival of the fittest is not evolutionary, it is the driver of evolution.
New Scientist: By itself, survival of the fittest is a dead end. People are especially guilty of confusing survival of the fittest with evolution.
What’s more, although the phrase conjures up an image of a violent struggle for survival, in reality the word “fittest” seldom entails evolution. On the contrary, it can mean anything from the best camouflaged or the most fecund to the cleverest or the most cooperative. Cooperation is an incredibly successful survival strategy.
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DNA changes are not random
DNA mutations are
Nature: Why mutation is not as random as we thought. Challenging the dogma of gene evolution. However, new research is challenging this idea of randomness, showing that mutations in the genome of the plant Arabidosis thaliana appear to happen less frequently in important regions of the genome.
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DNA similarity between chimps and humans has dropped from 98.5% to 81%
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences: Greater Than 98% Chimp/Human DNA Similarity? Not Any More.
David A. DeWitt cited a study which found that the two species are only 95% identical when insertions and deletions are considered, showing that the estimate of divergence depends mainly on what type of DNA is being compared. A number of differences between humans and chimps were named that are difficult to quantify in an estimate of sequence divergence, including shorter telomeres in humans, a 10% larger chimp genome, and great differences in chromosomes 4, 9, 12 and the Y chromosome, for example. Indeed, DNA similarity estimates ‘do not adequately represent fine changes in genome organization.
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences confirm in a study, nearly one-half of the MHC region was sequenced, ‘which to date represents the longest continuous sequence within this species [chimps], our closest evolutionary relative’, and has been described as a ‘rapidly evolving’ part of the genome. Although it has been held that human/chimp similarity in the MHC is ‘so great that the alleles must have originated before the supposed chimp/human evolutionary divergence’, the sequence results actually dropped the DNA similarity estimate down to 86.7%
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:52 pm to Fun Bunch
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Why? Which god?
Not really sure that even matters. Just a belief in, we are not it and there is something bigger pulling the strings. Everything we are and know, just did not happen from a random explosion of matter the size of a pin head.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:57 pm to DarthRebel
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Does being a priest have relevance to make it more or less believable?
More believable in that big bang and Aquinas's cosmological arguments for God's existence must not be in conflict if you have a priest of all people propose it? Absolutely.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:03 pm to DarthRebel
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Not really sure that even matters. Just a belief in, we are not it and there is something bigger pulling the strings. Everything we are and know, just did not happen from a random explosion of matter the size of a pin head.
So turtles all the way down right?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:21 pm to ThuperThumpin
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So turtles all the way down right?
Do you really think joking about turtles dispenses with a first cause? Or is it a defense mechanism?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:29 pm to Flats
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Do you really think joking about turtles dispenses with a first cause? Or is it a defense mechanism?
Defense mechanism in a way if I'am being honest. The concept of the prime mover glitches my brain.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 2:42 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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I see someone gets his science updates off the side of a bus.
Imagine living through this major of a divergence during a single lifetime. Idiot is 100% wrong, but if this data were actually true, idiot would essentially be proving evolution.
Try to keep up with the science
Or keep looking like a doofus. I dont really care
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Researchers have learned that despite the similarity between the DNA of humans and our closest relative, the chimpanzee, a significant difference occurs in the places along the genome where gene swapping occurs.
Researchers from the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard report with colleagues that the locations of DNA swapping between chromosomes, known as recombination "hotspots," are nearly entirely different. "We started trying to compare recombination in humans and chimpanzees in the hope that better understanding this fundamental mechanism might inform our approach to mapping genes for human diseases, but our progress was stymied because identifying hotspots was laborious and inefficient," said co-senior author Dr. David Altshuler, director of the Broad's program in Medical and Population Genetics and associate professor of genetics and of medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School.
Recombination--or the swapping of genes between chromosomes--shapes the patterns of genetic variation in a species. It is the process in which DNA from an individual's father and mother is reshuffled to create new combinations of genes in the child--new combinations on which natural selection can act to shape the evolution of the species.
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Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that confirms this statement. In the study, nearly one-half of the MHC (major histocompatibility complex) region was sequenced, ‘which to date represents the longest continuous sequence within this species [chimps], our closest evolutionary relative’, and has been described as a ‘rapidly evolving’ part of the genome. Although it has been held that human/chimp similarity in the MHC is ‘so great that the alleles must have originated before the supposed chimp/human evolutionary divergence’, the sequence results actually dropped the DNA similarity estimate down to 86.7%
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The human genome contains two MHC Class I genes, the MICA and MICB, yet chimpanzees contain only one gene at this location, the Patr-MIC.
NOTE: Dr. Rodney Page, professor of medical oncology and director of the Flint Animal Cancer Center. "Humans and dogs are 95 percent identical genetically"
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:00 pm to RobbBobb
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Still no fossil evidence of human evolution
There's ample fossil evidence of human evolution over the millennia. Humans of today don't look like their ancestors of 4,000,000 years ago, like Ardipithecus ("Lucy" as an example).
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:13 pm to DarthRebel
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random explosion of matter the size of a pin head.
Jesus. You got that all completely wrong.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:13 pm to tarzana
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:17 pm to MAADFACTS
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I will never understand how so many supposedly sincere believers want to reduce God to an unsolved X in an equation and don’t think that’s taking His name in vain
This is ridiculous.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:21 pm to imjustafatkid
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There is no evidence of evolution as the origin of our species. It's done. Over.
Oh boy.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:29 pm to Mo Jeaux
Gotcha.
I'm swayed by the mathematical odds myself.
Put side by side the odds favor simulation over evolution. Math is one of the more objective and reliable of the science so it seems reasonable.
I'm swayed by the mathematical odds myself.
Put side by side the odds favor simulation over evolution. Math is one of the more objective and reliable of the science so it seems reasonable.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:39 pm to TrueTiger
quote:It absolutely has not.
You think evolution will be “debunked”?
Already has been.
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