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re: Scholars say pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be accepted

Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:30 am to
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Whether it's been applied to pedophilia YET is not the point.


I'm not as impressed with SFP's brain as he is, but I suspect he understands this. He's just doing his thing.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:31 am to
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Scholars who say this need to be removed from society. Maybe send them to an island in the middle of the ocean.


I’d simply like to know what scholars our media is being informed by to pass this along to the people.

IYKYK
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:32 am to
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I'm not as impressed with SFP's brain as he is, but I suspect he understands this. He's just doing his thing.


Half a million posts over 20 years and never been wrong. Just ask him.

Triggered him so hard dude logged into his alter to DV
This post was edited on 11/16/24 at 9:15 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:33 am to
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How do you propose to develop these treaments to see if they work?


1. Develop treatment plan
2. Test it on non-offending people suffering with the pathology
3. See if the pathology decreases/is eliminated in time

If it doesn't work, use the scientific method to try another treatment plan until you either find some that help or exhaust all options and table it until someone can figure out another option.

It's not difficult.

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"Well, we tried that, but he still diddled a little kid.


We're not talking about people who offend and engage in child sexual abuse.

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No thanks. I'll think I'll err on the side of protecting kids from the possibility of this happening to them when we have a person who we KNOW is likely to want to try to diddle little kids.

So why not just kill all victims of child sexual abuse to make sure none develop the pathology?

Right after we kill the pedo who abused them, we kill the victims. That way we err on the side of protecting kids from the possibility of this happening to them when we have a person who we KNOW is likely to want to try to diddle little kid, right?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:33 am to
SammyTiger and Hank approve.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10667 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:33 am to
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But this literally hasn't happened yet.


And when it was just gay marriage, people stupidly denied where that was heading as well, just like you are here. And less than ten years later children were deciding to have life-altering medical interventions as though that was something they could reasonably decide for themselves.

The echoes of, "There is no such thing as a slippery slope" had barely died down.

No one is claiming that what is going to happen has happened yet.

We're claiming that if you look at both the history and the logic of what has happened with other applications of sexual psychology, there is no good reason to think the same thing won't happen with this application.

And you're not providing any good reason to think we're wrong. You just keep repeating, "But it hasn't happened yet."

Yeah. That's why it's a prediction.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:34 am to
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I'm not as impressed with SFP's brain as he is, but I suspect he understands this

Y'all are making incongruent comparisons and using logical leaps.

Pedophilia is not going to be accepted as normal. Full stop. nobody is trying to do this, either.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:35 am to
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We're claiming that if you look at both the history and the logic


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the logic


I found the problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:37 am to
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And when it was just gay marriage, people stupidly denied where that was heading as well, j

It's still not heading that way.

You're creating a straw man and using that to illogically leap from it into your preconceived conclusion.

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And less than ten years later children were deciding to have life-altering medical interventions as though that was something they could reasonably decide for themselves.

a. This was specifically NOT predicted around gay marriage

b. This has nothing to do with pedophillia

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And you're not providing any good reason to think we're wrong.

The fact that you have to re-write history and are relying on hopes and dreams should make you re-examine your positions. That fault isn't on me.

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Yeah. That's why it's a prediction.

And I told y'all during gay marriage it would not become a reality and we have not moved in any way towards society accepting pedophilia as normal. Not one step.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:37 am to
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I found the problem.


You are the one relying on something having nothing to do with pedophilia to prove it's on the way.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42290 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:38 am to
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We're not talking about people who offend and engage in child sexual abuse.


Yet…

However, if they did, I have no doubt that you would defend their actions in some inane manner that would be contrarian.


Rationalizing a behavior is an attempt to excuse that behavior.



He was poor, so he had no choice but to mug and steal!


Or


She dressed provocatively!


Or


Love is love! That includes children!!!




Your stance is a tacit defense of pedos.


You have officially “jumped the shark.”
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9634 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:38 am to

WTF ?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:39 am to
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Yet…

Ever

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if they did, I have no doubt that you would defend their actions in some inane manner that would be contrarian.

Wrong. My stance on offenders is clear.

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Rationalizing a behavior is an attempt to excuse that behavior.


Nobody is rationalizing a "behavior".

The discussion is about psychological pathologies.

The goal is to treat the psychological pathologies before they influence an actual overt act (behavior)

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Your stance is a tacit defense of pedos.

My stance is a hope we can create therapy to cure non-offenders, many of whom are victims of CSA

Anyone who offense should be prosecuted fully. Full stop.
This post was edited on 11/16/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:39 am to
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You are the one relying on something having nothing to do with pedophilia to prove it's on the way.


Quote where I tried to prove that pedophilia is on the way. I'm not responding to your imagination.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42290 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:40 am to
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a. This was specifically NOT predicted around gay marriage

b. This has nothing to do with pedophillia



Both opinions - and both illogical.


The Domino theory is in effect.
Posted by Harvey Vortac
MidCity
Member since Aug 2024
159 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:40 am to
This tells me that they see not much more capital can be gained using it as a wedge against the Catholic Church
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:41 am to
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Both opinions - and both illogical.

Actually, both are fact

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466936 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:42 am to
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Quote where I tried to prove that pedophilia is on the way. I'm not responding to your imagination.


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When they start claiming that 12 year olds can decide to get permanent, life-altering hormone treatment before they can decide to get a tattoo, they've tossed out the "adult" firewall. It's logically inconsistent to claim in the next breath that the same 12 year old can't decide to have sex with a 25 year old.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16888 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:42 am to
That shite pissed me off. frick a pedophile they’re evil, sick deviant motherfrickers that need to bee in prison this bullshite is gonna come to an end
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18063 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 8:43 am to
SFP simpin for kiddie diddlers is not even shocking....it's expected.
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