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re: Satanists seek spot next to Ten Commandments monument on steps of OK's Statehous
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:55 pm to Revelator
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:55 pm to Revelator
quote:
I don't want a statue or image of God, Christ or the devil because I don't believe in idols. Any other dumb questions?
So the statue of the Ten Commandments
is not an idol?
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:58 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
NC_Tigah
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:04 pm to MagicCityBlazer
quote:
So the statue of the Ten Commandments is not an idol?
No more than a carving of the deceleration of independence would be or any other document.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:10 pm to PuntBamaPunt
quote:
Satanists seek spot next to Ten Commandments monument
I'm cool with that.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:13 pm to Blue Velvet
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:16 pm to PuntBamaPunt
I'm a Christian and while I may not like this, fair is fair. If you're going to allow a Christian monument, you have to allow others.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:17 pm to Blue Velvet
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If the contents of the Bible are real and our laws were based of of those contents, then we should certainly honor Satan, as he is the only hero from the Bible. It was Satan who showed Adam & Eve the knowledge of good and evil-- he taught critical thinking to naked, willful thought-slaves, it was Satan who offered food for forty days to a starving man in the desert, Satan understands human nature and doesn't judge you for being a human, Satan accepts God's unwanted children unconditionally, it is Satan who actually punishes the evil doers, and it is Satan who hasn't had countless millions slaughtered in his name.
No one is hindering your worship of Satan Blue Velvet. Help yourself.
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:22 pm to Powerman
quote:
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"
quote:
"If any one "point the finger" at a sister of a god or the wife of any one, and can not prove it, this man shall be taken before the judges and his brow shall be marked."
"If a man is taken prisoner in war, and there is a sustenance in his house, but his wife leave house and court, and go to another house: because this wife did not keep her court, and went to another house, she shall be judicially condemned and thrown into the water."
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:34 pm to Sayre
quote:
Maybe next to the ten commandments they can have pagan/Satanist sayings like 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.'
is that a satanist saying? it sounds a bit like the categorical imperative. did the satanists rip off kant?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:40 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
quote:
is that a satanist saying? it sounds a bit like the categorical imperative. did the satanists rip off kant?
Lavey included your above quote in his Satanic bible, but goes on to write an entire book. Shouldn't he have just simply put this on the first page and left the rest blank?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:49 pm to Revelator
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Lavey included your above quote in his Satanic bible, but goes on to write an entire book. Shouldn't he have just simply put this on the first page and left the rest blank?
i think you guys are confusing aleister crowley and anton lavey. the former was a mystical, new-agey, british writer. lavey is the satanic bible guy. but maybe i'm wrong. the kantian categorical imperative doesn't sound like a moral axiom for satanism though
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:54 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
Who is to say their religion is not as good as any other cult/religion?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:57 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:No one.
Who is to say their religion is not as good as any other cult/religion?
What does that have to do with legal heritage?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:06 pm to NC_Tigah
If they let the ten Commandments there, this opens the flood gates for all religions.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:07 pm to NC_Tigah
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What does that have to do with legal heritage?
This is the point of the matter. The Ten Commandments has contextual significance because of its historical place in the formulation of written law. The satanic writings or works has none. To compare the two is simply stretching the bounds of reason.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:10 pm to Revelator
Based on what revelator said, he makes sense. But if you let one religion in, how do you tell another go away. But based on legal tradition, I agree,
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:12 pm to Revelator
quote:
because of its historical place in the formulation of written law
How?
There are several other legal codes
that predate the ten commandments.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:15 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
quote:
Based on what revelator said, he makes sense. But if you let one religion in, how do you tell another go away. But based on legal tradition, I agree,
If the monument was solely religious in nature I could see the satanists point. But in this context, they don't have a good argument. If the Ten Commandments monument had been erected in a public park, the situation would be different.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:19 pm to Revelator
quote:
If the monument was solely religious in nature I could see the satanists point. But in this context, they don't have a good argument.
The argument for the ten commandments are
entirely religious.
Mostly because there are other written law codes
that are more historically important.
First ever written code found is the code
of Ur-Nammu
Then the next oldest recorded legal code is the code of Hammurabi.
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:44 pm to MagicCityBlazer
I love how the purpose is to celwbrate oklahoma's judeo christian heritage when the only the reason the population in indian territory was chrisitian was by force. Similar to them posting a thanksgiving monument and talking about our heritage of feasting in oklahoma....revisionist assholes evwryone of them
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