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re: Same sex marriages

Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:11 am to
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:11 am to
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Husband and a wife are titles for people who are married to another in a heterosexual marriage relationship, where the husband is the male and the wife is the female.


The law disagrees with you.

You are at liberty to define the words however you want, but if you are a law-abiding citizen, then you have to recognize how the law defines them in matters that relate to the law.

And fortunately for the rest of us, you and your church have no legal authority over us. Those days are long gone. If you prefer to live somewhere where the church is the legal authority, you can move to a Muslim country.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65161 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:12 am to
butt buddies
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Husband and a wife are titles for people who are married to another in a heterosexual marriage relationship, where the husband is the male and the wife is the female.
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The law disagrees with you.

Countdown to a dismissive reference to "man's law ...."
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 8:14 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46731 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:13 am to
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But I'm sure all the divorced straight people on their 3rd and 4th marriages are all saved.
Why? I’m not sure about that.

Jesus said that you can tell a tree by the fruit it produces. A habitual adulterer who divorces and marries again and again is also sinning against God and evidences an unsaved state and should receive the gospel of Jesus Christ for the forgives of sins. Such a person needs to repent of their adulteries.

This is a poor gotcha attempt. You need to repent of your sins and turn in faith to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, too, just like everyone else.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60950 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:14 am to
They’re both wives. Just like they are both moms if they are raising a child.

My daughter has two kids in her class each with 2 moms (that I know of). I’m friends with all the moms and it’s a little weird to refer to them all as moms just because it’s not something I’m used to, eg “I don’t see Vivienne’s moms anywhere.”
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15774 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:16 am to
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would agree on the Civil Union stance... but the gays demanded Marriage. Then they demanded Christians to Bake the Cake, provide the flowers and take the pictures.

Now they're in drag reading to preschoolers. And mutilating minors.


As a gay conservative I can assure you that not all gays believe in marriage. Don't believe you have to bake a cake and are strongly against dragons reading to kids. Also there is no such thing as "trans ".

I've been with my partner for 29 years. I know other couples that have been together longer. I too believe in the gays should use the civil marriage BUT I can't stand religious hypocrites shoving false beliefs and thinking they own marriage when factual history proves them wrong. If marriage was only for the church than why does it take the government to recognize it to make it legal. If you really believe that marriage is for religious purposes than why nor ignore getting a government piece of paper.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17219 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:17 am to
With multiple wives in a gay marriage can it really be called monogamy?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15774 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:18 am to
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You need to repent of your sins and turn in faith to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, too, just like everyone else


Clean your own house before talking about mine.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46731 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:18 am to
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The law disagrees with you.
Yeah, fallible and sinful humans tend to disagree with the infallible God. That’s not surprising.

quote:

You are at liberty to define the words however you want, but if you are a law-abiding citizen, then you have to recognize how the law defines them in matters that relate to the law.
I don’t have to obey man over God when the two are at odds. I have to obey God. Fortunately, at this time, there is nothing I have to do to comply with man’s laws on this subject as my speech is not compelled and I’m in no position to have to recognize homosexual “marriage” at all.

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And fortunately for the rest of us, you and your church have no legal authority over us. Those days are long gone. If you prefer to live somewhere where the church is the legal authority, you can move to a Muslim country.
Christians can advocate for changes to law just like everyone else can. Why are you so bigoted against Christians?
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:19 am to
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This is a lie. Didn't start out as a religious institution and still isn't one today. Governments give the legal recognition of marriage and only through the government Can you get a marriage license.


I'm fine with that. I use the word "marriage" to distinguish between an event that is sanctioned by a church vs one that is sanctioned by the state.

But if you want to use the word "marriage" to describe an event sanctioned by the state, then I'm OK with that as long as I know who the sanctioning body is - the church or the state. There is a difference.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46731 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:20 am to
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Clean your own house before talking about mine.
The gospel is God’s message, not mine, and He is perfect with no “house” to clean.

You can give me any excuse you want for why you don’t need to obey God but I’m not your judge, He is.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68722 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:21 am to
Women refer to each other as wives. Men say their other is their husband.
I’m not sure how a third party refers to the two individuals.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
20844 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:22 am to
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As a gay conservative I can assure you that not all gays believe in marriage. Don't believe you have to bake a cake and are strongly against dragons reading to kids. Also there is no such thing as "trans ".


I know y'all exist... wish y'all were as loud as your counterparts.

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If you really believe that marriage is for religious purposes than why nor ignore getting a government piece of paper.


At this point, legal protections. 25 years married here, but only 18 of those have been Christ centered. The initial marriage certificate was to have insurance for an unexpected pregnancy and to raise our child as a cohesive family. The real meaning of marriage came when we both gave ourselves to Christ.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
30006 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:24 am to
Queers
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15774 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:25 am to
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The gospel is God’s message, not mine, and He is perfect with no “house” to clean.


Are you talking about the book that's been mistranslated, numerous times and meanings warped to justify man's actions .

Take the story of Jesus protecting the prostitute and saying " he who is without sin cast the first stone". The original bibles never had this in them until hundreds of years later. OR let's talk about how eating shellfish or wearing clothes made from different types of fabric are listed as the same sin as homosexuality. Funny how you " church people " like to cherry pick verses while ignoring others.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15774 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:27 am to
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At this point, legal protections


Which is the exact same reasons gays wanted marriage.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15774 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:29 am to
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know y'all exist... wish y'all were as loud as your counterparts.


We are not out in the streets because we just want to be left alone to live our lives.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46731 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:32 am to
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Are you talking about the book that's been mistranslated, numerous times and meanings warped to justify man's actions .

Take the story of Jesus protecting the prostitute and saying " he who is without sin cast the first stone". The original bibles never had this in them until hundreds of years later. OR let's talk about how eating shellfish or wearing clothes made from different types of fabric are listed as the same sin as homosexuality. Funny how you " church people " like to cherry pick verses while ignoring others.
As much as I would love to get into textual criticism and transmission of the Bible, you are getting off subject.

If you would like to discuss homosexuality, go for it.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:32 am to
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I would agree on the Civil Union stance... but the gays demanded Marriage. Then they demanded Christians to Bake the Cake, provide the flowers and take the pictures.

Now they're in drag reading to preschoolers. And mutilating minors.

Roll it ALL BACK.


Wow, OK.

Gays don't "demand" marriage. They demand the same rights as state-sanctioned married heterosexuals. That is a subtle distinction.

They expect businesses with state-sanctioned business licenses to recognize their state-sanctioned marriage. If you want to operate as a state-sanctioned business, then you should follow the rules of the state.

No one is forcing anyone to operate as a state-sanctioned business. It is a choice. You could operate an unsanctioned business. You just have to understand what the consequences could be.

If you want to work toward a society where the state has less control, then I'm all for it. But right now, that is not the society that we live in.

If you don't want drag queens reading to your preschooler, put your kid into a private school, or work toward changing the law to where drag queens are not allowed to read to preschoolers in public school. Pretty simple.

Mutilation of minors - again, very simple. Make it a law to prohibit gender reassignment surgery / treatment on minors.

It all comes down to how much state control over our lives are you willing to accept.

I bet you don't consider circumcision to be mutilation, do you?

Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19303 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:35 am to
Like yourself.
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