re: SAIP: Pope Leo condemns climate change critics

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The problem is the lack of Orthodox communities in America.

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They're growing at an exceedingly rapid pace. I've said on here before the average commute time for our parish is a little over an hour one way. Ours is 50 minutes, but once you're going, you're making the drive without question. I'll say the hectic nature of getting a family of 5 ready to go by 8:45 being followed by a 50 minute commute is a welcome reprieve instead of having an 8 minute commute and arriving at church while the tears are still flowing from an unruly toddler.

But missions are popping up all over and quickly becoming parishes. Virtually no one leaves the Orthodox faith for protestantism or Catholicism except for, on occasion, cradle Orthodox, and they almost always wind up coming back. Orthodox converts virtually never leave the faith once committed. It is the faith that will reunite Christianity. It's the only one left the most intact from the day of Pentecost.

Catholicism (i.e., Rome) has bent the knee. They're the original reformers who left the church for heresy, it's no surprise they're still reforming. Their bed has been made; by the time Leo is done, he'll be the final death knell for Rome and its "Vicar."

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The Church has lost its way multiple times throughout history.

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Catholic theology: good
Catholic leadership: bad to horrible

Let me get this straight…

The Pope has recently:
- downplayed abortion
- lied about mistreating immigrants
- participated in some pagan, earth worshipping session
- and has now inserted himself in the climate change power grab


He’s on a roll!

… maybe just stay out of politics altogether.

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I think our only difference is the Nicene Creed.

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That was one reason for the Schism, another was the heresy of the Pope.

There are a few other minor differences that can be addressed and corrected, but the filoque and Pope things must be corrected. It's why when a Roman Catholic converts to THE Catholic church (i.e., universal, i.e., Orthodox), he must denounce the filoque and Papal nonsense of Roman Catholicism.

Protestants like FooManChoo don't have the first clue about Orthodoxy. I've yet to meet one with his dangerous self-righteous mentality who wasn't deeply uniformed on the one and only Apostolic holy Orthodox church.

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This is where you lost me

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You cannot be a detached arm and claim to be a part of the body. This nonsense with Christians thinking they're above the church and can do the church's effective bidding as their own authority and be effective too is wildly antiBiblical. Sorry guys: You're not having church reeling in that bass at sunrise on Easter, you're fishing. To submit, i.e., enter into THE Church is to submit to Christ.

This nonsense with every Tom, Dick and Harry starting up a new church offshoot because they want to use eisegesis and their own authority when reading scripture instead of exegesis, and church authority in order to make mega bucks (having a successful protestant church is a surefire way to generational wealth) has got to stop today. Hundreds of thousands of heretical, opposing theologies has got to stop today.

It's gotten out of hand, and it must be admonished and rebuked now.

There is one church that Christ built and whom He said the gates of hell shall not prevail against it, and it wasn't the one Martin Luther built (nor the one he came from stationed in Rome). Twenty centuries later, hell has not and will not ever prevail against it.

At this point, Protestant church hustlers and their tens of thousands of opposing theologies have become a work of the devil. It must end.

Nathan Apffel has done great work on this very subject and the never ending hustle of pastors of churches both big and small and the damage it has done to the church and the Gospel. He has a YouTube channel called, "The Church Business." Here's an interview of him with Shawn Ryan. Of course, the biggest reformed church of them all and the richest of them all, and the subject of this thread also has the biggest hand of all in the money pot.

There's global warning and then there's man-made global warning. One is a natural phenomenon (earth has gone through 5/7 ice ages. you cannot have an ice age w/o a warming period). One is a man-made hoax.

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His blessing of that block of ice was really fricking stupid.

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I don’t necessarily disagree but Catholics have Holy Water in every church. The blessing of water happens every day

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I think our only difference is the Nicene Creed

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While that's one of the big differences that led to the great schism a thousand years ago, that's not the only difference. The other big difference was over the Pope as the head of the Church (the EAC sees the equality of of the patriarchs together in ecumenical council as the highest authority).

I believe the EOC also doesn't see original sin as an issue of guilt but of stain or disease, whereas the RCC teaches it also includes guilt of Adam that is washed away with baptism. I think there are also some big differences on Purgatory and the Catholic dogmas on Mary, too.