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re: Russia, Ukraine, France, and Germany to hold talks on eastern Ukraine, without US

Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:32 am to
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15724 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:32 am to
quote:

The United States is part of NATO.


Yes, so let NATO handle it.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5812 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 7:05 am to
They plan to sacrifice the Ukraine for “cheap gas in our time”….
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57236 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 7:09 am to
You want the US in another European war? Ukraine is not a member of NATO. Let EUROPE handle it.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 7:10 am
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9175 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:01 am to
Wasn’t Biden supposed to be this great international leader?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30186 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:07 am to
Adults in the room thank goodness, a return to America’s respected standing amongst the international community…..epic fail on them.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98859 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:17 am to
At least Ukraine is invited, unlike in 1938.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15420 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:30 am to

Let’s face it. These leaders didn’t want an incompetent mole for the Chinese and a defeated regime in Ukraine in the room while figuring out how to solve this problem. Joe Biden is an impediment to solutions, precisely bc he is the problem
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140552 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:32 am to
Wow. Brandon fricked this up.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98859 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Wasn’t Biden supposed to be this great international leader?


Even when he was at the apex of his mental prowess, the only person who thought this was Biden.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Liberals and Conservatives no longer see each other as countrymen.


To be fair, that's because we aren't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260686 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 8:40 am to
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Putin doesn't have a single shred of respect for anyone in that pic


Boring, systematic people who can't see beyond their own power. I'd be just as bored and unimpressed as he.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24895 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 9:52 am to
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Jack Posobiec Flag of United States
@JackPosobiec

Germany opens Nordstream 2, drops plans for US LNG port, refuses UK military overflight, holds direct talks with Moscow on Ukraine outside of NATO

Starting to look like they’ve worked more of this out than they want to let on

9:18 AM · Jan 23, 2022
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:02 am to
Is this the thread where we pretend like The US didn't JUST meet with Putin Friday without European allies present?

As U.S. and Russia Prepare to Talk, Blinken Presents Hard Line
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:07 am to
Hello 10 o’clock. Who is that little she devil?
Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
1603 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:09 am to
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Putin doesn't have a single shred of respect for anyone in that pic


Nope and also the guy knows our internal issues and struggles better than anybody. He’s an arsehole, but a smart and calculated arsehole. He knows nobody in that picture would do shite to him should he decide to invade Ukraine.

He also knows we ain’t doing shite. So this, imho, is a very calculated bluff on his part to get concessions without firing a shot. Chess and checkers kinda deal.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22386 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:13 am to
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He also knows we ain’t doing shite. So this, imho, is a very calculated bluff on his part to get concessions without firing a shot. Chess and checkers kinda deal.



That is exactly what he is doing. He knows he is dealing with a lot of Neville Chamberlains.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:16 am
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:14 am to
I hate to say it, but they made the right decision. Biden was a morally and intellectually flawed (that’s being kind) politician two decades ago. Now he is still all that and has dementia.

We are at a critical and pivotal time in our nations history and have as our leader a man who shits his pants at the Vatican. They had no choice but to exclude him.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:49 am to
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It's a shite show


The same fights going on here are going on in every country in Europe.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 10:50 am
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24895 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Is this the thread where we pretend like The US didn't JUST meet with Putin Friday without European allies present?



quote:

Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell

When you have a meeting with the Germans and fail to bring up their lack of NATO spending & support but instead you talk climate change... they hear you loud and clear.

8:47 AM · Jan 23, 2022



We are not a serious country. Probably talked about diversity trannies & car warranties with Putin.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22386 posts
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:55 am to
The Germans hated Grenell when he was ambassador over there.

You know why?

He called out their welching asses.
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