re: Russia to US govt: “we have found your biological weapons”

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Regardless, does anyone honestly believe we don't have bioweapons? Or Russia, China, UK, France, etc. Having them and using them are very different

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I don't read China or Russia shite. I watched American news and an American Undersecretary of State say she was concerned about the biolabs . If these were private entities discovering a cure for glaucoma she would not have mentioned them. The fact that she mentioned them with a worried look on her face said loads

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She mentioned them because there was some underhanded shite going on in them and she did not want it falling into the Russian's hands.

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I’ll ask again, why does “biolab” automatically mean biological weapons research?

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I don't read China or Russia shite. I watched American news and an American Undersecretary of State say she was concerned about the biolabs . If these were private entities discovering a cure for glaucoma she would not have mentioned them. The fact that she mentioned them with a worried look on her face said loads.

I have no doubt that the ChiComs and French and possibly even Russians have biolabs.....but why are we having them in the Ukraine? Like I said, it ain't benign.

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Back to the Lab Again, in More Ways Than One

From a Ukrainian presentation at a 2011 conference, organized by the U.S. State Department’s Biosecurity Engagement Program:

What high-containment biological (high BSL) laboratories exist in your country? What are the facilities’ main goals and priorities?

There are over 4,000 registered microbiological laboratories in Ukraine, but only 2 of them have a permit to work with microorganisms of the first pathogenic group, 402 laboratories have a permit to work with the microorganisms of the second pathogenic group, and all others are allowed to work only with microorganisms of the third and forth pathogenic groups. Here it is necessary to note that the classification of pathogenic organisms and therefore classification of the laboratories in Ukraine differs from the international one. It is inverted (i.e., in Ukraine “one” is the highest risk and “four” is the lowest risk) and also has some additional differences. . . .

According to the available data, there are no laboratories in Ukraine that fulfill BSL-4 requirements. One of the laboratories that has a permit to work with the microorganisms of the first pathogenic group did, however, recently undergo an international audit as a BSL-3 laboratory and received a preliminary positive evaluation.

Even biosafety-level-two laboratories work with some nasty stuff — e.g., hepatitis, HIV, salmonella. Biosafety-level-three laboratories work with microbes that can cause serious or deadly diseases through inhalation — e.g., Covid-19, tuberculosis, yellow fever, SARS, West Nile, some strains of influenza. Biosafety-level-four laboratories work with the most dangerous pathogens that carry the highest risk of infecting lab personnel — e.g., Ebola, Nipah, Marburg.

Ukraine does not have a level-four lab today. Just as it did a decade ago, Ukraine has thousands of labs, but only a handful work with airborne, potentially deadly pathogens, and a few hundred work with “moderate-risk agents.”

Still, the security of those labs and what’s in them is something worth worrying about when they’re in an active war zone.

Yes, Ukraine has biological-research facilities. A “biological-research facility” is not the same as a biological-weapons-research facility. (Although it is worth noting that a lot of research into dangerous pathogens is dual-use; the more you know about how to fight dangerous viruses and bacteria, the more knowledge you could theoretically apply to weaponizing viruses and bacteria.) When state-owned Russian media such as TASS breathlessly echo a Russian official’s statement that “In Ukraine, a network of more than 30 biological laboratories was created,” they really want your mind to insert the word “weapons” in between “biological” and “laboratories.”

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Because a US official was concerned that it would fall into the hands of the Russians.

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