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re: Russia to Mass Produce Oreshnik IRBM

Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:09 pm to
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What will they build them with? They have to buy weapons from Iran and N Korea


MSM has done a number on some of you
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:15 pm to
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You think this shite isn't stealing from your employe

He doesn't have an employer.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:29 pm to
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You do know that SCUD'S were ballistic? Don't you. You did know that the SCUD 24 had 10 MIRVs associated with it? You did know we learned how to shoot them down in 1991? If these things are anywhere close we will figure it out quite quickly


Ballistic is not the issue, it is speed. Your 1991 SCUDs were Mach 5-6, these new ones are up to Mach 11. Hypersonic is a problem we do not have a solve for yet, shy of a classified solution we are unaware of.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:15 pm to
New Aegis systems have proven pretty effective in tests against hypersonic types. They seem to be vulnerable on the glide
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:20 pm to
You are like a fricking broken record, I said I was wrong, you acknowledged my correction...move the frick on.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:26 pm to
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Like the Su-57?


The SU-57 has been a key factor in Russia's air superiority over Ukraine.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:30 pm to
I would like to see a damage assessment. What did the impacts do?

Coming in at that speed it seems like it would be significant and maybe deep impacts, but there didn't seem to be any large explosions or secondaries. Did they hit the intended target?

Has anyone seen any impact images?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:34 pm to
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The SU-57 has been a key factor in Russia's air superiority over Ukraine.

Do you have a link to that? Everything that I've read says that Russia is keeping them far enough away from the front line to avoid being shot down by Ukrainian air defenses. They only have a handful of them.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:35 pm to
It was sarcasm
Posted by jizzle6609
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
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I'm not saying I agree with this critique, but I saw it yesterday.
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The first is that America is not as powerful as you think it is. It wasn’t as powerful as you thought it was in your first term, but its weakness is much more obvious now. 20 years in Afghanistan gave Taliban an air force. The Houthis kicked the US Navy out of the Red Sea. Niger ordered the US and NATO out. The blank check for Israel alienates the world. The dollar is losing ground. Yuge failure.

The second reality has come in the last four years. They’re not afraid of America any more. It’s not as scary, not as powerful and not as competent as they thought it was. It has dribbled away the reputation it had in 1945. Always at war, always losing. (Afghans! Houthis! Niger!) 800 bases around the world are 800 hostages. If American aircraft carriers don’t frighten the Houthis – why would they frighten China?

Ukraine exposed the fraud. American/NATO weapons are boutique weapons – expensive, fragile and produced in tiny quantities. As your new Secretary of Defense can tell you, your generals aren’t warriors – they’re bureaucrats with MBAs dreaming of becoming sales reps for the MIC. “As long as it takes” isn’t very long. Send more weapons? What’s left to send? The “game changers” are defeated. You don’t have a big stick.



Its part of the the United States MO.

We never brag about military power, we dont have huge military parades showcasing our latest and greatest machinery and then when we sell machinery we allow people to freak out about the "technology" we are selling.

Its very entertaining. All we do is showcase every other military in the world when they have a parade.

When someone other than the United States can sail a boat over here with enough men to mount a substantial ground invasion give me a call.

Until then, you are living and breathing in the strongest world power that has ever exsted and by a very large margin.

Two oceans
Farmable land

This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:39 pm to
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Ballistic is not the issue, it is speed. Your 1991 SCUDs were Mach 5-6, these new ones are up to Mach 11


There's 0% chance whatever building that has been shown in the media that was hit was hit at Mach 4 not to mention mach 11. The damage barely looked like a 250lb dumb bomb. IDK exactly what is going on, but nothing was going Mach 4+ in regards to whatever damage was shown.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:41 pm to
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The United States military is far superior to anything on this earth.


Is that why the US military got kicked out of Afghanistan where the taliban still rule? Pretty sure we went there to defeat them….it didn’t work
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:48 pm to
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You are like a fricking broken record, I said I was wrong, you acknowledged my correction...move the frick on.


I have no problem doing that. Being cordial is a two way street brother. I give what I get.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:50 pm to
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Is that why the US military got kicked out of Afghanistan where the taliban still rule?

That's because we're excellent at warfare, but suck at occupations because the American public won't accept casualties to maintain the status quo. People have learned that if they can inflict just a few casualties and wait us out, eventually we'll leave.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:33 pm to
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The missile yesterday had no payload it was a blank. It was a message sent

Bahahaha. You idiot.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:34 pm to
Yep, And this would be the response. Which is why Russia will never do it.

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This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 4:36 pm
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
116933 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:43 pm to
Russia scary! Must do whatever Communist dictator wants to rid myself of these feelings.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:44 pm to
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Russia to Mass Produce Oreshnik IRBM


They supposedly cost around $50,000,000.00 per missile. Russia will be mass producing them slower than they are mass producing their Su-57s and T-14s.

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The missile yesterday had no payload it was a blank. It was a message sent



It was a message but it was not a message to the west. It was a message to make the Russian people feel like they are still powerful.




Putin has to reassure his own people that they are still strong because as you can see from the pictures I posted that the RUB is once again worth less than a penny and the Russian people are starting to want an end to this war.
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