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re: Russia or Ukraine shoots down Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 295
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:53 am to Tiguar
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:53 am to Tiguar
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Did an american citizen die? If not, then we do nothing I hope. If so, missile strikes against the AA? I'm pretty ignorant regarding the nature of this kind of combat so I don't know if what I am saying is feasible.
But we can't just let them murder civilians like this, especially when its our folks.
This is likely a point of escalation in this conflict but how much and by whom?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:53 am to Poodlebrain
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Why would Ukraine fire on an eastbound airplane headed for Russian airspace?
I doubt anyone thinks they did. I merely pointed out that I couldn't exclude them based upon the suspected system used.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:54 am to Navytiger74
yeah fox news just reported that Ukraine had these weapons too. (well 5 to 10 min ago)
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:54 am to Navytiger74
quote:Fact either or. They both have the assets at hand.
I doubt anyone thinks they did. I merely pointed out that I couldn't exclude them based upon the suspected system used.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:55 am to catholictigerfan
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right now they are thinking it is the pro russian militants. But this is speculation.
quote:
michaelscherer @michaelscherer · 1h
CNN's Barbara Starr reports Pentagon believes Russian side fired missile that took out separate Ukrainian cargo plane on Monday.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:55 am to Wtodd
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Anyone remember KAL-007?
Read all about it years ago. Not quite analagous.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:56 am to GumboPot
logic makes sense that it is Russians did it but it is still speculation.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:56 am to GumboPot
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This is likely a point of escalation in this conflict but how much and by whom?
Problem is that I don't see the US deploying to help out Ukraine nor would I expect any European nation to do so since Russia has them by the short and curlies due to their resources of oil and natural gas.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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A few vocal people like his style
What style?
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:57 am to teke184
Fox news just dropped the missed military plane hit 777 story again.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:57 am to catholictigerfan
quote:Probably, however Ukraine has a cargo jet shot down on Monday, lost a SU-25 fighter to a SAM ysterday, I can sse a scenario where the Ukrainians were itching to fire on a possible Russian aircraft.
logic makes sense that it is Russians did it but it is still speculation.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:58 am to catholictigerfan
Someone should probably tell Malaysia Airlines that one of their planes is down. Unless it was on the news, they may not be aware. Thank goodness someone found it for them already.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:58 am to GumboPot
quote:I don't think so. Apologies will be made and everybody will make kissy-face.
This is likely a point of escalation in this conflict
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:59 am to catholictigerfan
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Olena Tregub @OTregub · 34m
Russian news agency RIAN confirms the plane was shot down by separatists. They presumed it was UA cargo plane.
But...
quote:LINK
Moscow: Kiev allegations that Russian jet downed Ukraine plane absurd
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:59 am to catholictigerfan
fox news is reporting that this missile uses a homing system so if it fires at a plane but if there is a larger plane in that same path it will divert and take on that plane.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:59 am to Navytiger74
When it comes out that Germans were on the plane maybe Angela will wise the frick up
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:59 am to catholictigerfan
quote:NO
but if there is a larger plane in that same path it will divert and take on that plane.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:00 pm to GumboPot
I think Russians will deny them shooting it down for a while.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:00 pm to LSURussian
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I don't think so. Apologies will be made and everybody will make kissy-face.
That's a best-case scenario.
Problem being that Russia is the only power willing to get involved here and this is a country which has had no problems going medieval on the asses of any group going against them, regardless of the collateral damage involved.
Posted on 7/17/14 at 12:00 pm to Decatur
quote:The last time Germany took on Russia it didn't end too well for them.......
When it comes out that Germans were on the plane maybe Angela will wise the frick up
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