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re: Russia is lining up troops and missiles at border of Poland/Belarus very close to the NATO

Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:42 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36769 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:42 am to
quote:

This only addresses your spending comment, not specific advantages/disadvantages in military might. That being said, if France/Germany/UK teamed up, they could take on anyone even without our help (outside of China).


100% correct. if you add the top 10 nato european countries they would destroy any country not named the US or China.

French and Uk are the best militaries in Europe (this includes russian).

russian training and readiness is horrible and only thing worse is their maintenance program.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19806 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:43 am to
[quote]Russia is lining up troops and missiles at border of Poland/Belarus very close to the NATO[/quote

Good for them. God bless them.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:46 am to
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So far the Russians are having faster progress in a more prepared powerful country then the Americans did in Iraq, so what is exactly bad? Oh yeah, I’m guessing the USA didn’t “lose” in Afghanistan either.




Iraq is half a world away and not on our border
Iraq has harsher terrain
We don't speak the language
Baghdad is ~250 miles from the border, Kiev is ~50
We only lost about 150 men in the invasion
The Iraqis armor regiments didn't run out of fuel or break down on their way to the front
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35770 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:46 am to
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russian training and readiness is horrible and only thing worse is their maintenance program.

It is amazing that these traits seem almost cultural at this point. Russia has had these exact same issues in every conflict they have fought for the last 300+ years.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31756 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:48 am to
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Russia is lining up troops and missiles at border of Poland/Belarus very close to the NATO


That satellite image is from Feb 24 or earlier.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14892 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:51 am to
First reported Feb 24:

LINK

That isn't all that long ago though.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20984 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:53 am to
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But would some Ukrainian heave a shot across the border with some captured Russian armament? Then it’s on like Donkey Kong.


Would it though? You think Biden would honor a treaty that puts him at war? Dude has no honor. He isn’t fit to be a war time president and he knows it. And the cumdumpster Harris isn’t any better.

If war in Europe becomes a reality the best thing the US could done would be to miss the 1st 4-5 years of active involvement and get out shite together. We would need the time to the military complex on a war footing and elect some folks with the stomach for a war.
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6357 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:53 am to
Germany and Japan are rapidly re-militarizing because of China and Russia. Anybody remember how effective those two were in 1940? It took Russia, the US and almost everybody else to defeat them. Now, they’re on our side. It’s all good.
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 10:56 am to
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There are certain groups of people who want us in a war with Russia because it benefits them financially. Don’t Be fooled by their rhetoric. Have we found those WMDs in Iraq yet?


Had a friend who was a colonel over in Iraq years ago. Interestingly, one of the things they DID find was airplanes the French had illegally sold to them. Even though an ally, we apparently reverse-engineered those planes and never made mention of it.

The planes were buried underneath mountains of sand in a bunker and only found through interrogations (that we no longer use because of wokeness).
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94781 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:04 am to
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Russia has had these exact same issues in every conflict they have fought for the last 300+ years.


When pushed, though, they put up a hell of a defense. They're great counterpunchers, too.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41458 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:06 am to
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utin/Russia can't be dumb enough to attack Poland. It's what started the last World War. Russia cannot take on NATO without help from the Chinese. If China joins the war well it's been good shite posting with you all.




Will trigger Article 5 and will spell the end of Putin
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2448 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:47 pm to
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What does that have to do with assisting Russia militarily in Europe?

Have you heard that the U.S. has a west coast facing the Pacific and it has Alaska and Hawii too as well as Pacific islands.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10329 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 1:54 pm to
Haha they are having trouble with the Ukrainians. Do you think they want to pull in NATO whose air assets alone would destroy all that armor they have pulled down into centrally located areas.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:01 pm to
So idiot Biden gives the Ukranians Fighter Jets and this regional conflict goes global. I leave it to your imagination what that global conflict would look like. Hint: stock up on iodine pills.

Ah yes. Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences. So to all you Biden groupies out there this is for you.....

Bad Boy! Bad Boy!
what ya gonna do
when Vald's nukes
rain down on you.
Bad Boy! Bad Boy!

.....but but but Donald Trump is a meany!

This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35770 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:04 pm to
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Have you heard that the U.S. has a west coast facing the Pacific and it has Alaska and Hawii too as well as Pacific islands.

So your implication is that China would be able to militarily assist Russia in Europe by attacking the US West Coast or Hawaii/Guam?

What planet do you guys live on? China is not capable of that. They don't have the navy or air power to do a damned thing outside of the China seas.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10329 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:16 pm to
China would have to take the Philippines and Japan befor they attack the west coast.

Otherwise they are sitting ducks floating around on the Pacific between the US and Japan
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:28 pm to
PT on Russian capabilities;

"They suck and Ukraine will likely beat them."

Also;

"They're going to attack NATO!"

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86070 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:31 pm to
Until the MIG debacle Poland wanted all the smoke, they were going out of their way to let Russia know it was their shite killing Russians

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23741 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:40 pm to
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NATO has next to no military power except for the USA. Poland only has 60,000 in their army so that won’t stop much. The German commanding general admitted last week Germany is weak.

Well, I guess it's a good thing NATO isn't comprised of only Poland, Germany and the US huh?

France and the UK have done some heavy lifting with us in the Middle East over the past 20 years. The Nordic countries may be small, but have better tech and are better trained than the Russians. Turkey is legit.

You're high as a kite if you think NATO wouldn't wax the Russians all over Europe.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35770 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 2:45 pm to
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China would have to take the Philippines and Japan befor they attack the west coast.

Otherwise they are sitting ducks floating around on the Pacific between the US and Japan

And the reality is that they cannot do either of those things either. China, for the moment, still lacks the ability to project power anywhere outside its territorial sea.
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