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Russia has been very quiet. They know the pendulum has swung right.

Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:00 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:00 pm
I think Zalensky, if he doesn't get his way, is going to try and taunt Putin into an attack on a Kiev site, like today's attack of Russia Black Seas HQ. Putin knows:



But I expect something major in Kiev to get blown to shite, if Zelensky doesn't get his way. He'll try to set up the blame on Putin.

Putin knows if he did something like that now, he'll frick up the turn of the tide. Am I off?
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:07 pm to
I don’t know why Russia hasn’t blown his plane out of the sky over the Atlantic in international waters.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10987 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:10 pm to
I hope the folks in the American spy plane off the Odessa coast have great life insurance coverage
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Am I off?


Yes.

quote:

I think Zalensky, if he doesn't get his way, is going to try and taunt Putin into an attack on a Kiev site


Putin attacks wherever he can. He doesn’t require being taunted to launch a missile or drone swarm.

quote:

But I expect something major in Kiev to get blown to shite, if Zelensky doesn't get his way. He'll try to set up the blame on Putin.


Where else would blame be put other than the person running the show over there?
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:17 pm to
I don't think Putin will be suckered or baited into anything. I think he assumes the US will keep this conflict going, and I think he's looking for a way to reach a decisive victory without prompting NATO entry. I think - just a wild guess - I think that will mean an encirclement of Kiev. Not a siege, not seizing the city, just an encirclement. That plus complete destruction of the Ukrainian military is as close to checkmate as you can get without creating such a catastrophe or outrage that NATO feels it must enter theater.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42071 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:24 pm to
Putin is reading the tea leaves and know Ukraine doesn’t have popular support outside the Beltway
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10343 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

I don't think Putin will be suckered or baited into anything. I think he assumes the US will keep this conflict going, and I think he's looking for a way to reach a decisive victory without prompting NATO entry. I think - just a wild guess - I think that will mean an encirclement of Kiev. Not a siege, not seizing the city, just an encirclement. That plus complete destruction of the Ukrainian military is as close to checkmate as you can get without creating such a catastrophe or outrage that NATO feels it must enter theater.


I don’t think Russia is capable of encircling Kiev or destroying the Ukrainian military at this point, at least by conventional means. It was a distinct possibility had they fully mobilized prior to invading but that time has long since passed. That was a colossal misreading of their own capabilities and how they thought they could be welcomed by the Ukrainian people.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:27 pm to
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an encirclement of Kiev.


They tried Kiev once. Don't see them trying again anytime soon.

Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:29 pm to
False flag incoming...?
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

I don’t think Russia is capable of encircling Kiev or destroying the Ukrainian military at this point, at least by conventional means. It was a distinct possibility had they fully mobilized prior to invading but that time has long since passed. That was a colossal misreading of their own capabilities and how they thought they could be welcomed by the Ukrainian people.


They can get to Kiev. Remember they still have hundreds of thousands in reserve to the north in Belarus. That force is 100% on combat power. They are not on reset / refit from battle. Encirclement, hammer & anvil...they can do it. They did make mistakes when they first went in - but they haven't repeated them.

The Nuland-Graham cartel might push for NATO entry into Crimea, which of course would escalate.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
10277 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 4:36 pm to
putin is bleeding the USA dry by keeping the conflict going because “as long as it takes” FJB will continue to pump american money and arms to POS zelensky.
putin is in no hurry. time is on his side. poland recently backed off on more aid to ukraine. others will follow.
only the warhawks in the US support this BS war effort.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37967 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Where else would blame be put other than the person running the show over there?

Umm...

Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

hey can get to Kiev. Remember they still have hundreds of thousands in reserve to the north in Belarus. That force is 100% on combat power. They are not on reset / refit from battle.


I haven't heard this from any source, where are you getting it from? If Russia has hundreds of thousands of fully fit combat-ready reserves sitting north of Ukraine, that would certainly be a major game changer.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7132 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

I don’t know why Russia hasn’t blown his plane out of the sky over the Atlantic in international waters.


How? There's no way for them to get planes over the part of the atlantic they'd have to be in without us knowing it because of the support planes that would be required to get them there and back. And if they did try it, they'd never see the F-22 cap till there's missiles coming at them. Then they'd disappear again to laugh themselves silly watching the Russians trying to escape pretty much certain death.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27323 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:16 pm to
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Chromdome35



Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:21 pm to
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putin is bleeding the USA dry by keeping the conflict going because “as long as it takes” FJB will continue to pump american money and arms to POS zelensky.

How does a poor nation bleed a rich nation by spending significantly more capital than the rich nation?
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10343 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Umm...




If the Pentagon is in control of the Russian war machine that would be a surprise to me. But sure, if they were in control like that I’d put the blame there. Where else would it go?
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:44 pm to
I believe Putin is getting ready for us to put ground troops in the ground.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22940 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Putin attacks wherever he can. He doesn’t require being taunted to launch a missile or drone swarm.




Putin could have already leveled Kiev. Why, I must ask, has he not?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22095 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 11:20 pm to
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Putin could have already leveled Kiev. Why, I must ask, has he not?
because that would mean he nuked a city in Europe, which is one way to ensure that he dies in nuclear fire. The Russian military doesn't have the means to level Kiev without being in artillery range or nuking it, neither of which they can do. You are a retard
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