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re: Russia/China alliance is part of Bible prophecy
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:10 pm to Revelator
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:10 pm to Revelator
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As with many biblical prophecies- there are multiple meanings and/or fulfillments. Nothing in the Bible (that I’m aware of) can be proven beyond all doubt (notice, I did not say “reasonable”). It’s up to the individual to discern.
It’s ironic that e people will buy all manner of insurances- yet neglect the insurance for their souls. What’s the matter? Is the cost too high?
As with many biblical prophecies- there are multiple meanings and/or fulfillments. Nothing in the Bible (that I’m aware of) can be proven beyond all doubt (notice, I did not say “reasonable”). It’s up to the individual to discern.
It’s ironic that e people will buy all manner of insurances- yet neglect the insurance for their souls. What’s the matter? Is the cost too high?
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:10 pm to Gings5
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This definitely lines up with the Bible.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:11 pm to AggieHank86
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Not in Ezekiel's time. Modern Iraq was controlled from Babylon, and Persia was the upstart to the northeast. Persia did LATER conquer Babylon/Iraq.
Good point, but I'm sure this can be squeezed into Revelator's interpretation.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
I'm not saying the Bible is predicting this future war. Our gov't is predicting it. It's there. We can only give so much money, then soldiers.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:and "rumors of wars"
Very brave of the Bible to go out on a limb by predicting that there will be wars.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:14 pm to Revelator
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On his popular website, "The Economic Collapse Blog," Snyder recently said that, "thanks to the endless bumbling of the Biden administration, Russia and China have been pushed into each other's arms" and seem determine to confront the western powers together. the apocalyptic "Unholy Alliances" that we have been anticipating for years have now been formed, much like we see in Ezekiel 38 and 39…. that it's going to be the U.S. and Europe on one side, and Russia and China—among others—on the other. With Russia and China becoming "best buddies," that does not bode well for the rest of the world
If you recall prior to Biden's Afghanistan Withdrawal Debacle in August of 2021 the CCP and Russia were holding joint military exercises. If you will also recal in early 2021 Russia was signaling to the world they were not happy with the situation on the Ukraine/Russia border, warning the EU/NATO/US if a solution isn't reached on the border dispute Russia would act in its nation's best interests. The EU/NATO/US summarily dismissed Russian concerns and allowed the tensions between Ukraine and Russia to escalate.
This ^^^ buildup towards Russia invading Ukraine was bolstered by a rigged US election which resulted in the most corrupt and incompetent person ever installed as POTUS. Once Biden showed his gross incompetence and weakness on global stage with the Afghanistan Withdrawal Debacle we all knew what was likely coming.
1) An invasion of Ukraine by Russia
2) And an alliance of sorts between Russia and the CCP
I said when Russia officially moved on Ukraine in February of 2022 it was done with the full knowledge and blessing of China.......I still think that's what happened.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:17 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Good point, but I'm sure this can be squeezed into Revelator's interpretation.
I actually meant to post Babylon, but typed Persia instead. That’s why I deleted that post, but you had already responded to it
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:21 pm to Revelator
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Russia/China alliance is part of Bible prophecy
Yep, Rev..."Gog and Magog. King of the North marching on Israeal, and a 200,000,000 man army from the East.
You might like to check out a ME Theologian (Muslim turned Christian) named Walid Shoebat. Well, versed with unique pov given his cultural perspective. Says that Russia will be the lone defender of honest Christianity in the End Times. That the original Church migrated to both Rome and Russia back when.
Guess we'll find out pretty quick.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:21 pm to Revelator
You can’t rebut fairy tales, my dude
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:25 pm to boosiebadazz
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You can’t rebut fairy tales, my dude
This reminds me of the mindset of those who insist all things they don’t want to believe is conspiracy, until they can no longer deny it’s real.
This will happen to you about Bible predictions as well if God allows you to live that long.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:27 pm to Revelator
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This reminds me of the mindset of those who insist all things they don’t want to believe is conspiracy, until they can no longer deny it’s real.
This will happen to you about Bible predictions as well if God allows you to live that long.
All fine and dandy, but there is still no information to “rebut” your belief in predictions from thousands of years ago coming true some day.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:54 pm to Taurus
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I've said it before, so I will say it again. Bible prophecy is truth.
We are headed to war. Money does not bleed. Our troops will.
The vast amount of money we are giving to Ukraine will run dry, then troops will be there.
I agree Bible prophecy is the truth.
You say we are headed to war. I take it you mean in a very short time, correct?
So there is nothing that we can do to avoid war., right? So it doesn’t matter if we donate money or not, war is imminent.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:54 pm to AggieHank86
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If we interpret Scripture such that references to "red" are actually references to "blue" and that gravity works in reverse, everything falls naturally into place.
Little lesson here for ya Hankie... Conservatism is based in Bible Principles, of which, you have neither. And no, not even the George Will pic helps your case. You are as left as Bill Maher.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:59 pm to Revelator
I feel like I am in the minority of those who study the Bible or eschatology that believe the events of Ezekiel 38, 39 will happen at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ, obviously, based on the Rev 20 account. Though I do find the discussions interesting. Much Hebraic thought on prophecy deals with repeat of patterns in a circular time (as opposed) to the more western approach of prediction/fulfillment. There is a bit of both to it. A lot of insight from very good scholars comes from seeing patterns develop in the world that model past events.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:02 pm to Revelator
With all due respect the author of this article does not have a clear understanding of China/ Russian relations. No one does really.
China and specifically Wang Yi in his recent diplomatic tour are talking out of both sides of their mouth, keeping the west unsure of their motives. Will they lean harder into supporting Russia, or back away from Moscow and support a turn toward negotiated peace? Beijing is trying to balance both sides or at least give the appearance of doing so.
China and specifically Wang Yi in his recent diplomatic tour are talking out of both sides of their mouth, keeping the west unsure of their motives. Will they lean harder into supporting Russia, or back away from Moscow and support a turn toward negotiated peace? Beijing is trying to balance both sides or at least give the appearance of doing so.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:12 pm to ThuperThumpin
In addition, Nostradamus mentioned WWIII in some of his quatrains. There is one about WWIII happening when the bear and dragon join forces.
Then it goes on to talk about man becoming man eater.
Then it goes on to talk about man becoming man eater.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:27 pm to Revelator
I found it very interesting also when Russia showed up in Syria a few years ago, right at Israel's door.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:37 pm to Revelator
The Ezekiel 38-39 prophecy foretells the alliance between Russia, Iran, Turkey, Sudan, Libya, and parts of some of the Muslim countries which emerged from the USSR. However, when these "hordes" invade Israel, 5/6 of them will be destroyed on "the mountains of Israel" thereby opening the door for the "Kings of the East" which undoubtedly means China.
Have those countries above ever been aligned before in history? No, but the main three (Russia, Turkey, and Iran) certainly are now. But scoffers will simply say it's a coincidence.
By the way, these nations are identified in the Bible by their Biblical names: Gog and Magog (Russia), Meshech and Tubal (parts of Turkey), Togarmah (part of Turkey), Cush (modern day Sudan), Put (Libya), and Persia (Iran). That should answer your next question.
Have those countries above ever been aligned before in history? No, but the main three (Russia, Turkey, and Iran) certainly are now. But scoffers will simply say it's a coincidence.
By the way, these nations are identified in the Bible by their Biblical names: Gog and Magog (Russia), Meshech and Tubal (parts of Turkey), Togarmah (part of Turkey), Cush (modern day Sudan), Put (Libya), and Persia (Iran). That should answer your next question.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:40 pm to Revelator
“Behold, I (God) will make Jerusalem
a cup of trembling (anger, fear)
unto ALL the people (nations) round about . . .”
(Zechariah 12:2)
a cup of trembling (anger, fear)
unto ALL the people (nations) round about . . .”
(Zechariah 12:2)
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:53 pm to Placekicker
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Nostradamus mentioned WWIII in some of his quatrains.
No he didn't.
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