re: Rush on pre-existing ...it's not insurance, it's welfare

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i never said or came close to implying that they were, but you are correct

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frick Jimmy Kimmel's baby for not getting insurance before it was born.

you snooze you lose, little human life that conservatives pretend to care about while you're in the uterus

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You think all employer plans had waiting periods for PECs?

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No. Some did, some didn't.

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Did ole Rushbo mention how it was that folks with pre-existing conditions receiving treatment without the means to pay, as they did prior to the ACA, didn't drive up costs for those of us with adequate insurance?

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Yes he did mention that you are totally wrong. Pre-existing under the ACA was offset by increased premiums on the healthy. That's why premiums doubled for many people. Mine went up 3K per year. Try to keep up.

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quoting

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Reading, homie.

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Pre-existing under the ACA was offset by increased premiums on the healthy.

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Also from reimbursements from the government, which the Republicans killed.

Some pretty good examples in the NYTimes. I don't see why these people should suffer.

LINK

Larisa Thomason, of New Market, Ala., remembers the day 15 years ago when her husband got a letter from Humana informing him that his policy would not cover any cancer care because a preventive colonoscopy had turned up several benign polyps.

Likewise, an insurer in Wisconsin refused to cover any treatment related to Alice Thompson’s reproductive system, starting in 2003, because a doctor had written in her medical record that she should have a hysterectomy to eliminate painful menstrual periods. “Had I gotten ovarian or uterine cancer, I wouldn’t have been covered,” said Ms. Thompson, 62, of South Milwaukee. “For 10 years, I was living under this uncertainty of ‘what if.’”
Ms. Thompson, an environmental consultant who is now being treated for vision problems and headaches, added that when she switched to an Affordable Care Act plan in 2014, “I just remember the sense of relief being huge. Now the specter of all this coming back is horrifying. I don’t think I’m being overly paranoid to think, what if I have to move my business to a different state to get coverage?”

Before the Affordable Care Act mandated essential benefits to help make sure people had broad coverage, insurers routinely excluded various medical services. Almost two-thirds of people who bought their own policies did not have maternity benefits, a third did not have coverage for substance abuse services and about a fifth did not have care for mental health issues, according to a federal analysis of coverage before the law.

In the past, excluding certain conditions from coverage sometimes left people with crushing medical debts. John Gillespie and his wife, Beth, ran their own small auto repair shop. In the late 1990s, the couple, who live in Beaver Falls, Pa., could not find an insurance company willing to cover her epilepsy. At one point, Ms. Gillespie had to go to the emergency room because she was having seizures, and the doctors worried that she had developed meningitis. She was in the intensive care unit for three days. Her seizures were in fact because of the epilepsy, and the couple faced nearly $20,000 in medical bills. “We ended up making payments on that for several years,” Mr. Gillespie said. When the couple was finally able to find a plan that covered her disease, the premiums were astronomical — about $2,400 a month for both of them. “It was easily the single largest expense we had,” Mr. Gillespie said. The couple could barely make ends meet, despite his working 60 hours a week and teaching some night classes. They refinanced their house three times. The couple now pay $1,200 for coverage. They are both 58 and semiretired, with little in the way of savings if they were to face another medical emergency.

Now do all the anecdotal evidence showing where people are now paying more for ACA plans than their mortgage. I mean you want the full picture I'm sure.

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Also from reimbursements from the government,

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WELFARE

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from the government

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Well why didn't you say so?

As long as it's paid by the government and not people, I'm good with it.

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Would be nice to have it called what it is so it could be dealt with honestly

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DemocRats would lose elections if they did that.