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re: Ron remained Silent Yesterday while his team put out that it's kinda Trump's fault

Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101547 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:42 am to
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a subpoena


In a normal sane world, THIS never even happens.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140616 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:44 am to
But it did happen because they weren’t kidding when they said by any means necessary.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:44 am to
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And you’d get your arse whooped in real life if we ever met


Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422891 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:44 am to
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In a normal sane world, THIS never even happens.

In a normal, sane world, Both Russia and the US intel agencies aren't working at the same time to snare a Presidential candidate, but that happened in 2016 and Trump deftly maneuvered the situation.

This situation in 2023 was like a 1/10 on the difficulty scale and he acted like a narcissistic idiot and gave them what they wanted.

Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9209 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:46 am to
Exactly. Regardless of who was the target, the gross abuse of our justice system to target a political opponent is the issue here. If people think this will end when Trump is gone are delusional. The ones wielding this fascist power will not stop and will only become more aggressive. As this force consumes more of America's liberty it will strengthen and eventually move to silence all opposition. Folks need to get over Trump and see the bigger picture.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15134 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:47 am to
Quit worrying about how others are supposed to react to your king. It’s Trumps situation and nobody needs to say much about it. Because you will demand a new statement every other day.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101547 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:48 am to
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because they weren’t kidding when they said by any means necessary.


Right, which circles us back to my original point here that any perceived "recklessness" is all but completely meaningless - or at least the term is completely misdirected as to what is really going on here and to whom it should be pointed, absent a bunch of folks buying into the whole scam.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37664 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:48 am to
It’s obviously a political prosecution but Trump’s dumb arse keeps compounding the problem by not complying, obfuscating, and not listening or taking legal advice and he gets these process crimes piled on him. He should have known better by this point. Again that part was totally avoidable.

DeSantis wouldn’t be making these mistakes.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9209 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:49 am to
See below link, none of this will matter. It is a smoke show, a production.

LINK
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140616 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:49 am to
Right. We agree with you.

But knowing that, a wise man would be hyper vigilant about any avoidable missteps.

Can we at least agree about that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422891 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:50 am to
quote:

It’s obviously a political prosecution

Yes, I don't think anyone is arguing that (BamaAtl, et al aren't around)

quote:

but Trump’s dumb arse keeps compounding the problem by not complying, obfuscating, and not listening or taking legal advice

Exactly.

quote:

DeSantis wouldn’t be making these mistakes.

2016 Trump wouldn't be making these mistakes, either.

His fans keep pretending that he's got the same mental ability/clarity.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15134 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:51 am to
He’s having trouble putting a legal defense team together.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:51 am to
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But knowing that, a wise man would be hyper vigilant about any avoidable missteps.


Absolutely.

If your kid gets his arse beat by another for taunting him, you can still blame the perpetrator while holding your kid accountable to low standards.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101547 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:52 am to
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But knowing that, a wise man would be hyper vigilant about any avoidable missteps.

Can we at least agree about that?



I don't know. I'm still not buying the notion of a "misstep" here. I guess I just reject the entire validity of the "game" in which we are supposed to be criticizing how he played it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422891 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:52 am to
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See below link, none of this will matter. It is a smoke show, a production.

LINK


That case likely doesn't apply to this scenario.

EVEN THEN, again...

Trump's biggest concerns have nothing to do with the charges relating to possessing the documents (and/or their classification status or his legal right to possess them at MAL).

Trump's biggest concerns flow from his reckless and idiotic behavior AFTER the investigation began, which are completely separate from the documents charges and will survive even if the documents charges are dismissed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422891 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:54 am to
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I'm still not buying the notion of a "misstep" here.

Dude, it's very likely he had his agents move documents while the investigation was going on, which he then claimed he didn't have (for subpoena purposes), which were then found after the search.

All he had to do was turn those over but, for whatever reason, he just can't help himself.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2241 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:56 am to
This is a shitty take…trump and his son has been dragging the hell outta DeSantis…why should he give Trump grace by tossing him a rope…?

Trump put boxes of documents in his bathroom, admitted on tape (allegedly) that he had documents that weren’t declassified …he deserves the negative look for being dumb
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140616 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:56 am to
I don’t know all the details as I think it’s 99% a witch-hunt too

But, my guess is the smart play would have been to return everything asked for and litigate on the other end.

He may have fallen in their trap. Lord knows they have been trying forever.

Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15134 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:56 am to
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All he had to do was turn those over but, for whatever reason, he just can't help himself.

He thought he was still the president in exile.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52833 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:56 am to
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VolcanicTiger


You are such a pathetic liar.
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