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Ron needs some debate prep before the next one
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:50 am
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:50 am
His shouting and canned one-liners just didn't land. He came off as awkward and rehearsed. He needs to calm down and just be more natural.
Even you Ronbots have to take the blinders off and see this. One of Trump's greatest campaign tools is his natural demeanor and how he is able to relate to everyday people despite his vast wealth and upbringing.
Spare me the "it should all be about policy talk" because outside of this poli board, everyone you know doesn't care about policy as much as you. It's a sad reality of the general society.
Ron will never get his policy points to land unless he stops shouting the whole time, loses the scripted one-liner slogans, just talks naturally, and sounds less like he is rehearsing for the WWE.
Despite what you think, I want Ron to do well so he is ready for 2028 but last night he had a lot of awkward moments.
Even you Ronbots have to take the blinders off and see this. One of Trump's greatest campaign tools is his natural demeanor and how he is able to relate to everyday people despite his vast wealth and upbringing.
Spare me the "it should all be about policy talk" because outside of this poli board, everyone you know doesn't care about policy as much as you. It's a sad reality of the general society.
Ron will never get his policy points to land unless he stops shouting the whole time, loses the scripted one-liner slogans, just talks naturally, and sounds less like he is rehearsing for the WWE.
Despite what you think, I want Ron to do well so he is ready for 2028 but last night he had a lot of awkward moments.
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:51 am to stout
I'd be happy if he just gets a suit that fits.
Dude looked like a 5 year old getting ready for his Olin Mill photos in big brother's hand me down jacket
Dude looked like a 5 year old getting ready for his Olin Mill photos in big brother's hand me down jacket
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:52 am to stout
He seemed very robotic and mechanical.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:52 am to slinger1317
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I'd be happy if he just gets a suit that fits.
Fat Chris is another one that looks like he got his suit on the discount rack at KMart
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:53 am to stout
There's a rumor swirling around that DeSantis is going to fire his whole campaign team and hire me, Jon Ham and rmnldr to lead it.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:54 am to stout
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Even you Ronbots have to take the blinders off and see this. One of Trump's greatest campaign tools is his natural demeanor and how he is able to relate to everyday people despite his vast wealth and upbringing.
Because Trump is always himself and is real.
He doesn’t try to be something that he isn’t, and that’s why he has such a great connection with many voters and his supporters.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:58 am to stout
He needs to just embrace himself. Ron Paul and Nixon are two who come to mind as awkward, but both just dealt with it and were more effective because of it.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:02 am to stout
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His shouting and canned one-liners just didn't land. He came off as awkward and rehearsed. He needs to calm down and just be more natural.
if hes still in it in April he'll be better.
personally i think it was a useful snapshot that reveals his character.
all he needs is a better writer. scripted one liners are ideal for the 8 guy no-debate debate format. his pugnacious ego tripping will work better one on one if he lasts.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:03 am to stout
He needs a new personality 
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:04 am to Deuces
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Because Trump is always himself and is real.
He doesn’t try to be something that he isn’t, and that’s why he has such a great connection with many voters and his supporters.
deflect
then empty platitude
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:17 am to Parish Pig
Hard to get past that for sure.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:22 am to saint tiger225
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fire his whole campaign team and hire me, Jon Ham and rmnldr to lead it.
He would plummet into an abyss if he did that
You are the three stooges
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:23 am to Deuces
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Because Trump is always himself and is real.
The one debate against
Hillary where Trump listed to the people preaching the GOPe election playbook he did terrible bit when be figured he had nothing to lose he clobbered the shite out of her
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:24 am to stout
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He came off as awkward and rehearsed. He needs to calm down and just be more natural.
Even you Ronbots have to take the blinders off and see this.
Agreed. He seemed tense.
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Spare me the "it should all be about policy talk" because outside of this poli board, everyone you know doesn't care about policy as much as you. It's a sad reality of the general society.
Agreed. But even most on this board don't give a shite about policy. Thus the silence when asked what about Ron's policies are GOPe in nature.
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Ron will never get his policy points to land unless he stops shouting the whole time
To be fair, they were all shouting because Vivek was doing his best to emulate Trump and yelling over everyone when they were responding to questions.
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but last night he had a lot of awkward moments.
Agreed. He did not peform as well as i would have liked.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:26 am to BugAC
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Thus the silence when asked what about Ron's policies are GOPe in nature.
they are the same as trumps Nothing is different
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:31 am to stout
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Ron needs some debate prep before the next one
I think he needs less debate prep. Or a different kind. Maybe that's how he always is in this setting, but he looked conflicted between saying what he wanted and winning the debate style award for the night. It seemed like being the front runner on stage was overwhelming to him. Of course since he isn't the overall front runner, I appreciate the unique position he was in.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:32 am to SDVTiger
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they are the same as trumps
Wait, so Ron is NOT GOPe? Y'all have a lot of explaining to do over the past year and a half then.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:33 am to BugAC
Are you always a clown?
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:37 am to stout
There are one of three ways Ron could have approached a 2024 presidential run and he picked the worst option:
1. Finish his governorship in Florida and opt out of 2024 and grow and save his political bona fides for 2028.
2. Allow the donors and Murdoch money to coax him into running and become a corporate donor vessel parroting donor talking points at the same time trying to ride the fence to appease the base with vacuous one liners.
3. This option is a hybrid of 1. and 2. Play coy with the donor class, reject Murdoch's book deal all at the same time keeping them at arms length. Treat them like girls you dated in high school waiting by the phone for your call. Create an environment where people are begging you to get into the race.
The bottom line is DJT is in this race and the GOP base feels like there is unfinished business, and there is. Therefore Ron should have just stuck with option 1 and disappointingly he selected the worst possible option, 2.
1. Finish his governorship in Florida and opt out of 2024 and grow and save his political bona fides for 2028.
2. Allow the donors and Murdoch money to coax him into running and become a corporate donor vessel parroting donor talking points at the same time trying to ride the fence to appease the base with vacuous one liners.
3. This option is a hybrid of 1. and 2. Play coy with the donor class, reject Murdoch's book deal all at the same time keeping them at arms length. Treat them like girls you dated in high school waiting by the phone for your call. Create an environment where people are begging you to get into the race.
The bottom line is DJT is in this race and the GOP base feels like there is unfinished business, and there is. Therefore Ron should have just stuck with option 1 and disappointingly he selected the worst possible option, 2.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:38 am to stout
Maybe he had too much debate preparation.
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