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re: Roberts/SCOTUS needs to address this Trump shite right now
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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Then something new will come along and the same group will just redefine "conservatism" and pretend that they didn't spend years using a different definition previously. Washi, rinse, and repeat.
Ain’t that the truth.
I have family members that I used to argue about the war in Iraq being a huge mistake and we need to stay out. I was called a traitor even had shouting matches, remember “freedom fries?”
I shite you not, these exact same people now act like they never supported GWB, the Iraq war was a bad mistake. And guess what? They are all aboard the MAGA train now.
I guess you could say they eventually saw the light, but I suspect it’s uneducated, easily manipulated types that are controlled by fear. It’s just too easy to press their buttons.
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Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:26 am to redneck hippie
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but I suspect it’s uneducated, easily manipulated types that are controlled by fear. It’s just too easy to press their buttons.
Emotional thinkers.
Why do you think they sky scream so much when the fear porn is pointed out to them?
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:36 am to Dday63
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Why not avoid all of this logistical nightmare and just remove their target?
Why risk it if you can take him out without?
The whole issue is not knowing what the people will do. They're quickly finding out the people won't do shite no matter what.
You have millions of people who believe with all their heart that our elite are raping and torturing babies, destroying their religion, and coming for their kids, and they just bitch about it.
This is just the beginning. They know they can do anything now.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:39 am to TSLG
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The whole issue is not knowing what the people will do. They're quickly finding out the people won't do shite no matter what.
You have millions of people who believe with all their heart that our elite are raping and torturing babies, destroying their religion, and coming for their kids, and they just bitch about it.
Called it
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You can typically sniff out the egotistical origin of these theories pretty quickly in responses to this logical issue.
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This is just the beginning. They know they can do anything now.
With bonus fear porn to boot
THE TRIFECTA
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is true. Same with the potential immunity issue in the DC case, which is why I was shocked so many Trump supporters opposed trying to resolve the issue as quickly as possible
No one is opposed to resolving it. Folks are opposed to Democrats again trying to make up their new rules on the spot, which you obviously agree with
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:04 pm to redneck hippie
Trump's greatest legacy may be moving a portion of the right to an isolationist/anti-intervenionist position (I would also throw in border security and showing how dangerous and powerful the security state is). But, I do wonder how much of that is cult following. This board was mostly cheering on the Syria strikes and I have a feeling would be supporting the Ukraine proxy war if he told the masses to.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:24 pm to Bunk Moreland
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supporting the Ukraine proxy war if he told the masses to.
Or if Democrats opposed it.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Not at the final appellate level
If the lawyers make the wrong arguments, that's on them. Binding a court to either not rule or pick a bad argument, at the final appellate level, is not a +EV system
Especially at the Appellate level. Roberta rewrote a statute that was unconstitutionally drafted in the first place, by ignoring both sides of the argument.
The only way to undo his people pleasing codependency now, is to either change the entirety of Art 1 or just continue to try to fix the law by Congress which doesn’t say what he says it says. The only thing we got rid of statutorily was his faux constitutional order by Congress upon which he called a tax, upon which the entire albatross depended, and now all that is left is the rotting corpse of an incomprehensible statute that is only read by regulators anyway, so they can find ways to even muddy up shite even more.
We’re now stuck with an amorphous suck on the public dollar - bc nobody knows WTF it does.
Trial level affects the litigants. The appellate level affects all of us. Roberta is the biggest coward in American government and that is saying a lot.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:49 pm to Wednesday
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Roberta rewrote a statute t
He literally did not
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by ignoring both sides of the argument.
Bad phrasing. He ignored 2 bad arguments from lawyers.
Again, your system would either force the Supreme Court to either (1) not rule (because neither side made a winning argument) or (2) be subject to bad arguments from lawyers. That is not a +EV system.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 12:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Totally different situations.
Same with the potential immunity issue in the DC case
In one, a normal process (delay) allows the electorate to decide. In the other, an expedited SCOTUS ruling is the only chance for the electorate to decide.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:04 pm to NC_Tigah
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In one, a normal process (delay) allows the electorate to decide
The electorate isn't deciding a Supreme Court case over Presidential immunity
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In the other, an expedited SCOTUS ruling is the only chance for the electorate to decide.
It's the same thing.
You value intermediate appellate decisions so much. Just imagine how much value and guidance they will be in THIS case.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 2:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yes, they actually are.
The electorate isn't deciding a Supreme Court case over Presidential immunity
If Trump is elected, the immunity issue is moot.
quote:No.
It's the same thing.
It is as I stated it is.
quote:You'd do far better avoiding guesses as to what I "value" and instead focusing on what I'm telling you.
You value intermediate appellate decisions so much.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:00 pm to udtiger
I think SCOTUS moves because of NH.
What I would like is to have all the republican states ban Biden for insurrection for the border. He does not get enough votes...goes to states voting/congress.
What I would like is to have all the republican states ban Biden for insurrection for the border. He does not get enough votes...goes to states voting/congress.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 3:24 pm to udtiger
Wouldn't be THAT surprised if they address it just before breaking in June. It is up to Roberts after all.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Don't stop them when they are on a conspiracy roll and engaging in revisionist history.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:32 pm to KiwiHead
When someone has been ended in a thread, and you choose to drop another steamer on top of it, while posing as a supporter of the ended poster, it's fair for witnesses of such a forum catastrophe to ask whose side your on.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:39 pm to GoblinGuide
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Like what?
If it was public knowledge then the blackmail wouldn't be effective.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:48 pm to NC_Tigah
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Yes, they actually are.
If Trump is elected, the immunity issue is moot.
The prosecution may become moot if Trump is stupid enough to push for it, but the issue is not.
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You'd do far better avoiding guesses as to what I "value"
I'm not guessing. You've stated how much you value intermediate appellate decisions on novel issues that 100% are going to the USSC
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:49 pm to NC_Tigah
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When someone has been ended in a thread,
I "ended" that digressionary comment with my first response.
Roberts did not "rewrite" a statute.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Dude!
The prosecution may become moot
Wake up!
If Trump is elected, do you, as an American citizen, want the bullshite lawfare to persist?
WTF has happened to you?
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