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re: roads lined with decapitated police and soldiers
Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:30 pm to mtntiger
Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:30 pm to mtntiger
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It doesn't fricking matter who started this crap.
The bottom line is Barack Obama ran for President knowing we were already there.
HE said he would take care of it. HE wanted the job. HE's got it. NOW, it's his.
He said he'd pull out...he did on the Bush timeline. I think he should've done it immediately. That the fake nation of Iraq is in meltdown mode isn't his fault. If he gets us back into the conflict then he actually will have coownership.
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To me the biggest mistake we made in Iraq and Afghanistan is that once we were there we did not fight to win. Instead of fighting to thoroughly defeat the enemy, our main job was to win hearts and minds.
What should we have done, kill everyone? We actually tamped down the violence, but we were not going to resolve a centuries old hatred by shooting the place up and leaving. We waded into a civil war and nothing was going to work, don't see why you can't understand this.
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That is NOT how you wage nor win a war. Giving the enemy a date on when you're going to leave is retarded. All they have to do is survive till that date, then they can wreak havoc once you're gone. That is exactly what is playing out here.
Didn't matter if we told them X or just left randomly in the middle of the night....it was going to go down like this.
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:38 pm to idlewatcher
quote:I was referring to our government.
Sounds like here in the US
Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:42 pm to asurob1
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How many more lives will be lost due to George W Bush's war?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:57 pm to jamboybarry
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Just turrable, but no rational person didn't see this type of thing coming once we put a timeline on total withdrawal.
It's over ISIS runs Iraq now. Obama let it happen.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
Wow, its hard to discuss current events like this without it devolving into a left-right, bush-Obama, cluster frick of a discussion.
Having said that, the advancement of ISIS militarily may be just the impetus to get the Iraqi people off their collective asses and begin to fight to save their country from further erosion. Necessity is the mother of invention. Shrinking violets get out of the way. Not having the American military bail you out could be a blessing in disguise.
Having said that, the advancement of ISIS militarily may be just the impetus to get the Iraqi people off their collective asses and begin to fight to save their country from further erosion. Necessity is the mother of invention. Shrinking violets get out of the way. Not having the American military bail you out could be a blessing in disguise.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:43 pm to TT9
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No, blaming a guy that that had nothing to do with getting us in the war is what's dumb.
The guy declared that the war was over.
If he told us the truth then this must be a new war and his fault.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:52 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Ask Biden he declared this one of Obama's greatest accomplishments.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 5:10 pm to Jbird
One of Obama's greatest accomplishments was letting ISIS leader out of the pen. Now it may be topped with the OBama Five.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 5:33 pm to jamboybarry
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Just turrable, but no rational person didn't see this type of thing coming once we put a timeline on total withdrawal. The Syrian conflict has just bumped it up in time and intensity.
Hopefully the Kurds can hold fast, the Iraqi government can get their shite together and mount a respectable counter attack
hope we give the kurds everything in the arsenal cept a nuke ...
Posted on 6/13/14 at 5:52 pm to volmaverick
Who the frick is who? I mean, lets say a group of Taliban from Afghanistan ran into ISIS guys, would they fight or be friends? What about ISIS and Al Qaeda, are they friends or foes? Does Al Qaeda consist of Sunnis and Shia? Do the Kurds get along with Shia? Damn this is so confusing.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 6:11 pm to windshieldman
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Odd the morons who supported this shite 10 years ago are scrambling for any little thing to attempt to blame the current president for this shite show.
Well done.
actually moron, Obama authorized the release of the current ISIS leader and creator
Posted on 6/13/14 at 6:42 pm to ninthward
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actually moron, Obama authorized the release of the current ISIS leader and creator
I don't believe there is definitive explanation of his release. Some say he might be more a composite of several individuals. The prison in which he was held and shut down in 2009 and prisoners transferred to jails near Baghdad.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 6:51 pm to asurob1
And Al Queda is on the run. 
Posted on 6/13/14 at 6:59 pm to asurob1
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How many more lives will be lost due to George W Bush's war?
You reap what you sow.
frick you, obama ran on being so superior on such matters and all he has done is submit to our enemies and alienate oru allies.
Going on the 6th Goddamned year of the obama admin a-hole
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:11 pm to upgrayedd
quote:And why can't we ignore them now? Just leave this area of the world and when/if they ever tire of murdering each other, then maybe we can talk.
What a bunch of goddamn savages. The middle east has to be the biggest shithole on Earth. I look forward to the day when we can completely ignore these sub-human beasts.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:56 pm to Big12fan
You can not pin any thing on this donkey's tail. Obama is Teflon coated and his armor is impenetrable.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:58 pm to gthog61
quote:The Obama years have been no better or worse than the Bush years. More of the same old same old.
frick you, obama ran on being so superior on such matters and all he has done is submit to our enemies and alienate oru allies.
Going on the 6th Goddamned year of the obama admin a-hole
Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:59 pm to JazzyJeff
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And why can't we ignore them now? Just leave this area of the world and when/if they ever tire of murdering each other, then maybe we can talk.
That little commodity that the world revolves around called crude oil is the only reason any fricks are given about this particular portion of the world. There's no way the West can afford to let the ME implode.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:33 pm to 4LSU2
RELIGION
Man's greatest invention.........
Man's greatest invention.........
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:43 pm to volmaverick
Can we get these guys over here to work on the IRS?
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