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re: RFK Jr. Tells Food Companies to Remove Artificial Dyes

Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:23 pm to
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In the EU, there are 300 acceptable food additives.

In America, there are 3000 that the FDA allows.

They know how to make Doritos and Mountain Dew without the crazy shite, because they sell them in Europe. They choose not to here because... rea$on$.



Europe isn't nearly as fat as the US either.

Hell, the pasta eaters in Italy aren't as fat as the typical American.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20068 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Again, i'm all for getting much of this stuff out of our food, but the misinformation is just silly.



These are valid points
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75754 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:28 pm to
I’ve said it before. I don’t agree with European politics hardly ever, but how they regulate what kind of food their population eats is what we should be doing. I’ve been to Italy several times and I ate like a fricking pig but I still lost weight every single time. That’s what initially threw up a red flag in my mind.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75754 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Hell, the pasta eaters in Italy aren't as fat as the typical American.
Literally just posted that each time I’ve been to Italy I have eaten pasta like crazy but I’ve still lost weight each trip.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75130 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Hell, the pasta eaters in Italy aren't as fat as the typical American.

They aren't ingesting bioengineered wheat strains that are running 300+ years ahead of the modern human digestive system either.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39643 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:39 pm to
To be fair, if people walked on a daily basis as much as one does when they are on their vacation in another country in Europe, they'd probably lose a similar amount of weight too

This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72236 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:39 pm to
I have never understood the reasoning to add dye to anything we consume. It's just for coloring? The color doesn't matter.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39643 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:43 pm to
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The color doesn't matter.


Sure it does.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52024 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:02 pm to
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In a just world, those that perpetrated this on the public for profit would be imprisoned or worse.

Nope. The government makes the rules, and we are supposed to play by them. Don’t blame the players for bad rules; blame the rulemakers and the folks who elected them.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17610 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:06 pm to
How is it fear mongering if the fricking dyes are listed in the ingredients? They have been linked to cancers for decades.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75754 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:13 pm to
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I have never understood the reasoning to add dye to anything we consume.
Bright colors attract the eye more on the shelves at super markets. Plus it “looks healthier”.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39643 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:16 pm to
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How is it fear mongering if the fricking dyes are listed in the ingredients?


Not a difficult concept. If they are listing it in a grouping of multiple ingredients or calling it a completely different/coloqueal name instead of the full name that the US is required to use, and someone tries to use that to make a point off of, it is fear mongering.

As exampled earlier, it has been done with Red Dye 40 for years, making people believe that it is banned in Europe. It isn't. Not being honest, to try and scare people into your side, instead of being honest is fear mongering.

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They have been linked to cancers for decades.


Cool. Random statement. Not relevant to my point or anything i've spoken against. As I've said multiple times in this thread, i'm all for getting them out of our foods. Stick to this type of argument instead of "its banned in Europe, they are trying to kill us" arguments. There is plenty we ban that they allow too. If you are going to compare things to point out differences, make sure you equalize what you are comparing so that the only variable is what you are trying to show. Otherwise, you are being disingenous.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39643 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Bright colors attract the eye more on the shelves at super markets. Plus it “looks healthier”.


Yep. Even the European products use coloring (though a lot more of theirs are more natural coloring than all of our artificial ones). Acting like color of food doesn't matter is just silly
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Bright colors attract the eye more on the shelves at super markets. Plus it “looks healthier”.


If the meat in the cooler is the same color as a Victory Red Chevy, I don't buy it.

For reference;
Victory Red


I only buy meat from my local butcher. No coloring added.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:28 pm to
So that color is natural?

I only brought them up because of their campaign about the actual color of their ketchup.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25115 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Go after high fructose corn syrup poison.


Good, then we rename Mexican Coke to American Coke

This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39643 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Good, then we rename Mexican Coke to American Coke


Now, you're onto something.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62550 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:35 pm to
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In the EU, there are 300 acceptable food additives.

In America, there are 3000 that the FDA allows.
They also have way less free speech than we do.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26274 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:40 pm to
I did not downvote you.

quote:

smoke makes pork red with nothing added to it. Ham is often smoked.



Yes some curing processes can turn it pink. I saw video where the were injecting sliced ham with some liquid to give it a pink color. This was a year ago. Can't find it real quick. I did see where they inject with carbon monoxide to do the same thing. As saw the process and it was some liquid solution.

Both are banned in Europe and some other countries.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39643 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:45 pm to
A more recent one i've seen used to try and scare people recently is coloring around farm raised vs wild salmon. It is beyond laughable.
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