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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:42 am to Placekicker
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:42 am to Placekicker
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:44 am to Placekicker
Posted on 9/9/25 at 6:53 am to onmymedicalgrind
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So Big Pharma is nothing but COVID? How about the other 99.9% that sell non-COVID related products?
You want me to get into the Sackler Family and you scumbags being accomplices to the biggest mass murdering drug dealers in American history?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:05 am to OMLandshark
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You want me to get into the Sackler Family and you scumbags being accomplices to the biggest mass murdering drug dealers in American history?
I stand corrected. All of your knowledge about science/medicine is either from political sources or documentaries. That’s how I know your little “prior work history” is absolute nonsense.
I’m still waiting on your answer as to how the Big Insulin lobby is making sure no one cures diabetes?!?
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 8:07 am
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:14 am to onmymedicalgrind
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All of your knowledge about science/medicine is either from political sources or documentaries. That’s how I know your little “prior work history” is absolute nonsense.
Everyone in this country has a family member or friend who’s had their lives ruined by the Sacklers. And scumbags like you were accomplices.
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I’m still waiting on your answer as to how the Big Insulin lobby is making sure no one cures diabetes?!?
Could be as simple as they don’t fully understand how diabetes works. It’s not like all diseases and medical conditions are the same.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:14 am to Placekicker
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A study by the Cleveland Clinic shows that the more COVID boosters you get, the more likely you are to get COVID.
FYI, that's not what this study said. It was an observational study and it doesn't conclude that there's a causal relationship between doses and infection rate. It's because people who required more doses had weakened immune systems or worked in high risk environments where catching COVID was more likely.
The logic in the tweet would be like saying "people who get chemo die of cancer more often than people who don't, so chemo causes cancer"
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:20 am to OMLandshark
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And scumbags like you were accomplices.
How old do you think I am? quote:
Could be as simple as they don’t fully understand how diabetes works. It’s not like all diseases and medical conditions are the same.
Oh don’t move the goalposts now, buddy. Saying it’s hard to find cures is very different than arguing no one is looking. Surely you understand that, no?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:23 am to Penrod
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Less than half of those who died from flu and less than a third those who died of RSV. And that’s if you can trust our health bureaucracy not to exaggerate the covid deaths (I don’t).
The original claim was COVID wasn't harmful to kids. The thread is about RFK. Kids are born into the world with their mother's antibodies. When those are metabolized, they encounter these diseases like RSV, flu, measles, and COVID without immunity. He wants kids to get fewer of these vaccines. He says he tells people not to vaccinate their kids.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:31 am to TigerDoc
lol. TigerDoc gets downvotes for posting a rational explanation. This place is great…
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:43 am to VOR
about 5:1 downvotes on that. a lot of anti-vaccine attitudes have made their way into RW politics that weren't there before and it bodes poorly for health. Sad!
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:26 am to TigerDoc
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A lot of what looks like “more chronic disease” today is really the flip side of success. People used to die quickly from infections, cancer (mortality down 35% since I was in high school), heart attacks, or strokes, and now they live with these conditions and survive long enough to develop other ones that are treatable but not curable. If you don't smoke like your grandpa did, you still get something. Medicine hasn’t created these illnesses. It’s pushed back the deadliest ones. And while cures are hard, treatments of chronic diseases do improve, just not as fast as we want.
Except we are not living longer...Why is our life expectancy lower when compared to other 1st world countries?
What is the reason for increased Autism numbers? I know how you will defend this...
No medications have side effects? That's the only way medicine doesn't cause illness.
I'll give you this, lots of lazy people around that would rather a fix-all pill than actually eat healthy and exercise. Pharma knows this and capitalizes.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:46 am to mooseofterror
I hear you. I wasn’t saying meds don’t have side effects. Every treatment carries some risk, and that’s part of the trade-off we all wish were easier. My point was more about how the “chronic disease problem” is often the shadow of earlier successes. Vaccines and sanitation crushed infectious killers, smoking rates plummeted, cancer mortality is down a third since the 1990s, heart attack survival has improved dramatically. Those wins built the expectation that medicine can do the same everywhere, but many chronic illnesses are stubborn and harder to make progress on. It’s frustrating that progress feels slower, but I see that as proof of how far we’ve already come. People now live long enough to face conditions their grandparents never reached. Life expectancy gains have stalled, though. There's plenty to improve, and slashing medical research is only going to slow improvement there.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 10:47 am
Posted on 9/9/25 at 11:12 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Oh don’t move the goalposts now, buddy. Saying it’s hard to find cures is very different than arguing no one is looking. Surely you understand that, no?
I know for a fact that they had the cures to two diseases that they’ve hid from us so they could make a metric shite ton of money. I have extreme suspicions they also have that for HIV and certain forms of cancer, but they’re not giving us those.
But yeah, we don’t know completely how the human body works, which you and crazy4lsu seem pretty insistent that you do and that we need to shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 11:13 am
Posted on 9/9/25 at 12:56 pm to crazy4lsu
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Because that is the side here that I am talking to in this thread?
And? I'm not following why the more relevant/interesting discussion is about how the CDC/others fabricated/warped shite to advance political agendas rather than the interpretation of shite posted on social media by some dude.
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I think that invoking copyright protections for the mRNA vaccines showed they weren't serious about ending the pandemic. That was the most blatant aspect of seeking out money but one that never gets brought up for some reason.
Probably because it's not as spectacular as calling a murder/suicide two Covid deaths in order to rev up the dollar printers. An anecdote, for sure, but it's real and emblematic of the bullshite.
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I wonder who was president at the time they decided to do that.
You're an MD and you can't remember 5 years back? I'll help. The president was Donald Trump.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:01 pm to TigerDoc
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Cause-only COVID death was a top-10 cause of death for kids/teens during the Delta/Omicron era.
I don't believe this. Cause of death as determined by whom? Don't forget, back in the Covid era it wasn't doctors and pathologists/MEs that had the final say on cause of death.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:10 pm to TigerDoc
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lot of anti-vaccine attitudes have made their way into RW politics
Just out of the blue, for no reason at all.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:19 pm to Flats
these attitudes aren't common on these threads randomly? They've become linked to political identity. This is non-controversial and shouldn't be an unspoken elephant in the room. This is not to say anti-vax beliefs don't still exist on the left (the horseshoe is real y'all), but RW attitudes have greatly shifted. Someone was posting pre-pandemic TDPB threads on antivax and board regulars were cringing at how normie it used to be.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:24 pm to David_DJS
Cause of death always starts with the physician or medical examiner. They’re the ones who certify what actually killed the patient. CDC staff only translate that wording into standard codes so deaths can be counted consistently. They don’t invent or override the doctor’s judgment, including during COVID.
As for the numbers, the datasets are accessible with de-identified data via CDC's wonder database which people from the public can use.
As for the numbers, the datasets are accessible with de-identified data via CDC's wonder database which people from the public can use.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:25 pm to TigerDoc
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This is not to say anti-vax beliefs don't still exist on the left (the horseshoe is real y'all), but RW attitudes have greatly shifted.
I'm not saying they haven't, although I think you're conflating RW and MAGA a little much. Most of my circle consists of very conservative upper middle class types and they're not anti vaccine.
In any event I'm not saying attitudes haven't shifted, I'm saying it didn't happen in a vacuum.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 1:29 pm to TigerDoc
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Cause of death always starts with the physician or medical examiner. They’re the ones who certify what actually killed the patient. CDC staff only translate that wording into standard codes so deaths can be counted consistently. They don’t invent or override the doctor’s judgment, including during COVID.
You're forgetting about the Death Certificate Matching Program of the Covid era, which interestingly enough is hard to find information on these days. But it was a real thing during Covid.
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As for the numbers, the datasets are accessible with de-identified data via CDC's wonder database which people from the public can use.
One of the casualties of Covid nonsense is nobody believes the government anymore.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 1:31 pm
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