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re: RFK- keto diet as cure for schizophrenia

Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:02 pm to
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Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45533 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:03 pm to
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Essentially RFK is just telling people to stop eating processed foods and eat more protein. Medical experts in here disagree with that assessment and want people eating more fast food so they can continue prescribing patients anti-psychotic drugs.



Please post a link of a medical expert telling people to eat more fast food.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:04 pm to
Yeah, we need to go back to letting Big Pharma call the shots. That's always worked out so well for the health and well-being of the American people.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:05 pm to
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Is this the case

That’s the point, genius!

No one knows if that’s the case or not. It’s why no one with reasoning ability gives credence to a case series of 2. You’re finally getting it
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45533 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:06 pm to
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The St. Maarten scholars here disagree and prefer to maintain the status quo.


Where did you get your diploma from?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:07 pm to
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No one knows if that’s the case or not


I imagine Dr Palmer does, in fact, know if he treated ~500 patients but only two responded.

Go pet your pocket mouse.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:09 pm to
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I imagine Dr Palmer does, in fact, know if he treated ~500 patients but only two responded. Go pet your pocket mouse


Has his data been verified by any other source?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:13 pm to
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Has his data been verified by any other source?


What data?

That "data" was pulled directly from ommg's rectum.

He set up a strawman to deflect from the main argument that there is evidence that changes in diet can affect mental health.

As for verification of ommg's "data"... he has a pocket mouse you can query.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:17 pm to
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I imagine Dr Palmer does, in fact, know if he treated ~500 patients but only two responded.

Well then why is the case series just 2 patients? Hmmm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:19 pm to
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Well then why is the case series just 2 patients? Hmmm


There are more.

We are just discussing the two because those are the two with details posted, thanks to WeeWee.

Wait, hold up... you actually thought there were only TWO?
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2281 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:20 pm to
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Where did you get your diploma from?


I’m not the one claiming intellectual superiority that makes me uniquely qualified to interpret data sets.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131484 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:20 pm to
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He set up a strawman to deflect from the main argument that there is evidence that changes in diet can affect mental health.


It can. But it isnt curing schizophrenia.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:20 pm to
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What data? That "data" was pulled directly from ommg's rectum.

I don’t think you even know what you’re arguing anymore.

quote:

He set up a strawman to deflect from the main argument that there is evidence that changes in diet can affect mental health


Ahh you keep trying to do this but I will continue to call you out. The “main argument” is does keto diet CURE schizo and BPD. Your dishonest framing is just that.

quote:

As for verification of ommg's "data"..


Data coming from my rectum still isn’t as shitty and case series of 2 patients.

Did you learn about levels of evidence yet?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:22 pm to
this is just a quick ai overview... feel free to dive into specifics on your own time.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11514 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

But it isnt curing schizophrenia.


Full remission, cure. Whatever. Apparently it frickin works.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21531 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

It can. But it isnt curing schizophrenia.


And handwashing between dead people and laboring women won't save lives either.... - Ommg circa 1870, probably

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

this is just a quick ai overview... feel free to dive into specifics on your own time.

Significant psychiatric improvement =/= cure.

Surely you understand that, no?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21531 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:27 pm to
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Significant psychiatric improvement =/= cure.

Semantics.

Remission is in that quick overview too.

It's also early days for this type of intervention and application. Do you think the "science is settled" already?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:37 pm to
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Semantics.

Treatment vs cure is just a semantic difference to you? Yikes...
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21531 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 3:40 pm to
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Treatment vs cure is just a semantic difference to you? Yikes...


Remission v cure is the semantics I was speaking to.

You, your strawmen and your mouse make for quite the merry band of misfits.
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