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re: Retired US Navy Admiral James Stavridis said NATO might be finished

Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10301 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:28 pm to
Stavridis is a major globalist and advocate of US war everywhere... in the name of preventing war, of course. He was also pushing for the US to sign the Law of the Sea Treaty that would have given the UN sovereignty over US territorial seabeds. I've read a couple of his books. He's very much the type that loves to bring in DEI officers, especially at the flag rank.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:32 pm to
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So all the oil and food vs no oil and food. Not to mention the 2 strongest militaries and like 98% of all the nukes


Europe's combined military power dwarfs that of Russia's.

Not to mention that the EU's GDP is 15X that of Russia's.

But let's forget about little details like that.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:34 pm to
NATO should have died in 1991. It’s nothing more than money laundering
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8641 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:36 pm to
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Russia wanted to join Europe and have normalized relations with the west after the USSR collapse, including us, but we told them to frick off. We needed a bad guy for MIC and globalists to make money. And here we are in 2025


Except that isn't what happened at all. Europe and the U.S. gave Russia every opportunity it could get to integrate into the Western order after 1991.

They were an oligarchic, chaotic, fricked up mess that didn't truly reorganize until a former KGB officer took supreme power and stamped down internal dissent. Even then, many European countries and even the U.S. gave them ample opportunity to keep shite semi-stable, and they continued to be their Slavic, fricked up selves as they've been for hundreds of years destabilizing everything in their path.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27184 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:49 pm to
I hope so.
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3681 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:55 pm to
NATO is long past its expiration date……WWII ended 80 years ago…The Cold War ended with Reagan….NATO is just money laundering….
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:10 am to
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That downvote is not me but you are a moron. The US has spent nearly $30 trillion on NATO.


Sigh….we spend on our own military. NATO does not have an independent military. We contribute 16% of the NATO common costs.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39683 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 3:07 am to
Europe went woke and opened their Borders for a virtually irreversible invasion and destruction/transformation of their culture and heritage. They are no longer ‘Free’. Russia will not, and the lines are being redrawn. We should leave NATO as their Ideology is incompatible with our own. Let them and Russia level each other if they want. One thing for sure is that Russia has proven what they are willing to suffer with over a 1,00,000 deaths. How many has Europe sacrificed for Ukraine? That unarmed SuperSonic ICBM was a hint to Europe that they had better sober up.
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1250 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 5:55 am to
Please, please stop teasing me.

USA should get out of NATO and UN. Neither function for purpose created.
Stop all the meddling(via CIA and NGO's) and focus on economic strength first and MIGHT second.

The NATO and UN remind me of the company where I worked. Holding meeting after meeting, only real thing being accomplished is back slapping and fraud.
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