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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:27 pm to John somers
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:27 pm to John somers
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You got a demon riding you. Good luck with that.
Well now, don’t be an a-hole. Be like your mythical friend Jesus. Do what he would do. At least pray for me.
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:38 pm to Squirrelmeister
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This reflects a rival Christian cult with more ancient beliefs that the Holy Spirit was the goddess Asherah who was the queen of heaven and wife of El Elyon and mother of Yahweh - which that sect believed to be pre-incarnate Jesus.
While there was some belief that the Holy Spirit was feminine and the Divine Mother in some early Christian groups, I'm not aware of any sects that equated it to El's consort, Asherah. Belief in Asherah died when Israel became monitheistic, some 500-600 years before Jesus.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:21 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:That's not how Bible interpretation works. You interpret the text based on its context, including the genre of writing. Not everything is to be understood literally. You have to read the context to determine that.
If you believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God that should be taken literally, you would have to believe in both concepts.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:42 pm to AUveritas
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While there was some belief that the Holy Spirit was feminine and the Divine Mother in some early Christian groups, I'm not aware of any sects that equated it to El's consort, Asherah.
Christianity didn’t spring from Pharisee Judaism. It sprang from obscure sects of Israelite religion that never died off. Is why Clement of Rome quoted Deuteronomy 32:8-9 in his epistle to the Corinthians. It was very important that the father god El Elyon assigned his most unique special son Yahweh the nation of Israel.
The goddess is still preserved in late canonic OT writings…
Malachi 4:2
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2But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in her wings. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall.
And the same goddess is in NT writings too.
Revelation 12
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1And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth.
They didn’t call her Asherah any more. She was simply the mother, the Holy Spirit, the queen of heaven.
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Belief in Asherah died when Israel became monitheistic, some 500-600 years before Jesus.
Hopefully you have a reason now to question that statement you made and do your own research.
Let me leave you with this…
Look up the word for “happiness” in Biblical Hebrew. Hell, look up the modern Hebrew word.
Do the same thing for “blessed”.
Report back on if you think Asherah still died out 500 years before Jesus.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:55 pm to AlterEd
quote:quote:Yes, I am. Because I understand that claiming something definitely does not exist is still an affirmative claim that cannot be proven. It is the very definition of irrational. As I said, rational people eventually come to this realization and grow out of the childish "atheist" phase.
Think about it Ed, you are calling atheists irrational - people who understand their reality based on scientific principles and evidence.
I honestly think your argument is not well thought out here and immature itself.
If I said Ed, last night I was visited by a leprechaun in a dream and he told me where his pot of gold was hidden.
Would you say “get the frick out of here with that nonsense, leprechauns don’t exist”? You might think I was joking or being a horse’s arse.
Then I could use your argument back at you. Ed, you’re being irrational. You’re making an affirmative claim about the non existence of leprechauns that cannot be proven. Would you agree that you were being irrational in that hypothetical sense?
Honestly “proven” isn’t even a rational word to use in any of these senses. Save proofs for mathematics. For historical matters, use “the evidence best supports…” or similar.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:01 am to AlterEd
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We are going to learn that civilization was jump started by "aliens" in Mesopotamia.
Good luck with that
There is no Sumerian manuscript. Just fragments of clay tablets. Tablets that cant be dated because they never held biologic material, like a clay pot would. In fact, the tablets arent linked to any known language in history. The earliest decipherable tablets date from 2300 BC by other objects found near them
Canaan was Noah of Ark fames grandson. The people that populated Canaan had writings dated much earlier than Sumer, and in fact developed script that even the Greeks eventually used. This was around 8000 BC
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The Phoenicians were an ancient Semitic people who inhabited city-states in Canaan, The history of the Greek alphabet began with the adoption of Phoenician letter forms in the 9th–8th centuries BC during early Archaic Greece and continues to the present day.
This was millennia before the Sumerians are even mentioned in history
No one knew they existed until 1870, and everything is really sketchy due to the difficulty with translation
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The Sumerian language is considered an isolate, meaning it’s not related to any known language. This makes translating Sumerian literature incredibly difficult.
Most "stories" are best guesses. Dont bet the farm on them
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:15 am to Squirrelmeister
“If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever - the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you."
"But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."
-- Jesus Christ (John 14:15-17, 26)
"But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."
-- Jesus Christ (John 14:15-17, 26)
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:21 am to RobbBobb
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The earliest decipherable tablets date from 2300 BC by other objects found near them
You're off by over 1,000 years. And it is laughable to suggest there are writings dating 1) older than anything from Sumer and 2) 8,000 BC.
There's no need for us to discuss this farther either as you are clearly not a serious person.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:25 am to Squirrelmeister
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Then I could use your argument back at you. Ed, you’re being irrational. You’re making an affirmative claim about the non existence of leprechauns that cannot be proven. Would you agree that you were being irrational in that hypothetical sense?
Well, considering I look at the number of reported cases of leprechauns and how people report missing time when in their presence and realize it's probably part of the same phenomenon as the "alien" phenomenon, whatever it is, you will never hear me deny the existence of leprechauns.
Maybe you try again if you like. But it isn't going to change my view.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 12:38 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:35 am to AlterEd
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You're off by over 1,000 years. And it is laughable to suggest there are writings dating 1) older than anything from Sumer and 2) 8,000 BC.
You do know what an alphabet is, right?
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The Greek alphabet has been used to write the Greek language since the late 9th or early 8th century BC. It was derived from the earlier Phoenician alphabet,
And the Greeks got their script for their alphabet from the Phoenicians
Folks that came from Canaan
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The Mediterranean civilization of Phoenicia was one of the first alphabets, attested in Canaanite and Aramaic inscriptions found across the Mediterranean basin. In the history of writing systems, the Phoenician script also marked the first to have a fixed writing direction—while previous systems were multi-directional, Phoenician was written horizontally, from right to left
Where are the Sumerians today? If they were derived from advanced aliens.How come they disappeared. The Greeks are still here.The Jews are still here.
Things they make you go "hmmmmm"
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:39 am to RobbBobb
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If they were derived from advanced aliens.How come they disappeared.
People building straw men all over this motherfricker.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 12:40 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:30 am to Squirrelmeister
Malachi 4:2 - In Hebrew poetry, the gender of nouns often shifts based on grammatical agreement, not theological intent. Furthermore, the "Sun of Righteousness" is standard ancient Near Eastern imagery for justice (often associated with kingship), not a hidden Asherah revival.
Revelation 12 - Most biblical scholars view the woman clothed with the sun as a symbol for Israel (bearing the Messiah) or the Church, utilizing imagery heavily borrowed from Genesis 37 (Joseph's dream of the sun, moon, and eleven stars). The Catholic Church holds that it's Mary. None that I know of connect it to Asherah.
Sharing a root does not mean words mean the same thing. In Semitic languages, the root '-sh-r fundamentally carries the meaning of "to go straight," "to prosper," or "to be upright." Happiness/Blessing (Osher) comes from the idea of walking a straight, prosperous path. Asherah likely took her name from this root because she was the goddess of fortune, fertility, and prosperity.
Saying Osher proves Asherah worship survived is like saying the English word "Thursday" proves Americans still actively worship the Norse god Thor.
The leap to claim that Asherah herself survived as a hidden goddess in the text of Malachi, Revelation, and the modern Hebrew vocabulary is a massive stretch. It conflates linguistic inheritance and literary archetypes with actual, continuous religious worship.
Revelation 12 - Most biblical scholars view the woman clothed with the sun as a symbol for Israel (bearing the Messiah) or the Church, utilizing imagery heavily borrowed from Genesis 37 (Joseph's dream of the sun, moon, and eleven stars). The Catholic Church holds that it's Mary. None that I know of connect it to Asherah.
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Look up the word for “happiness” in Biblical Hebrew. Hell, look up the modern Hebrew word.
Do the same thing for “blessed”.
Report back on if you think Asherah still died out 500 years before Jesus.
Sharing a root does not mean words mean the same thing. In Semitic languages, the root '-sh-r fundamentally carries the meaning of "to go straight," "to prosper," or "to be upright." Happiness/Blessing (Osher) comes from the idea of walking a straight, prosperous path. Asherah likely took her name from this root because she was the goddess of fortune, fertility, and prosperity.
Saying Osher proves Asherah worship survived is like saying the English word "Thursday" proves Americans still actively worship the Norse god Thor.
The leap to claim that Asherah herself survived as a hidden goddess in the text of Malachi, Revelation, and the modern Hebrew vocabulary is a massive stretch. It conflates linguistic inheritance and literary archetypes with actual, continuous religious worship.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 6:32 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:51 am to AlterEd
Are anymore releases planned?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 6:56 am to FooManChoo
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That's not how Bible interpretation works. You interpret the text based on its context, including the genre of writing. Not everything is to be understood literally. You have to read the context to determine that.
Oh I’m quite sure that’s true.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:01 am to RobbBobb
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You're off by over 1,000 years. And it is laughable to suggest there are writings dating 1) older than anything from Sumer and 2) 8,000 BC.
You do know what an alphabet is, right?
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The Greek alphabet has been used to write the Greek language since the late 9th or early 8th century BC. It was derived from the earlier Phoenician alphabet,
You do know that a century is 100 years, not 1000, right?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:48 am to AUveritas
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Malachi 4:2 - In Hebrew poetry, the gender of nouns often shifts based on grammatical agreement, not theological intent. Furthermore, the "Sun of Righteousness" is standard ancient Near Eastern imagery for justice (often associated with kingship), not a hidden Asherah revival. Revelation 12 - Most biblical scholars view the woman clothed with the sun as a symbol for Israel (bearing the Messiah) or the Church, utilizing imagery heavily borrowed from Genesis 37 (Joseph's dream of the sun, moon, and eleven stars). The Catholic Church holds that it's Mary. None that I know of connect it to Asherah.
I don’t know your beliefs, but you appear now to be engaged in apologetics, which is making excuses for those that already believe in a certain thing based on dogma to reinforce that belief so they will continue to believe.
In Malachi 4:2, the pronoun for the sun of righteousness is feminine. It isn’t ambiguous. But most English translations render “its wings” or even “his wings”. It’s intentional mistranslation, and in my opinion it is to try to obscure the winged goddess in the text.
The woman in the sky giving birth to the messiah in Revelation 12 is the same sun of righteousness in Malachi 4. I am convinced of that.
In ancient Ugarit, which shares the same religion of the southern Canaanites from right before some of them became known as the Israelites, they had a goddess “Shapsu” (analogous to “Shemesh” which is “Sun” in Hebrew). Shapsu was the sun, was a female goddess, provided fertility and blessings, was associated with justice and righteousness, and had wings in their mythology. I don’t believe that is a coincidence.
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Sharing a root does not mean words mean the same thing. In Semitic languages, the root '-sh-r fundamentally carries the meaning of "to go straight," "to prosper," or "to be upright." Happiness/Blessing (Osher) comes from the idea of walking a straight, prosperous path. Asherah likely took her name from this root because she was the goddess of fortune, fertility, and prosperity.
So it sounds like you are guessing, and that’s not enough to convince me. The name of the goddess, who provides blessings, is related to the Hebrew word for “blessing” no doubt. Would you admit it is plausible that it went from the name of the goddess to the meaning of the word for blessed? As a recipient of a blessing one would be been Asherah’d.
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Saying Osher proves Asherah worship survived is like saying the English word "Thursday" proves Americans still actively worship the Norse god Thor.
You’ve just provided an example of the name of the god going to the name of the day of the week in that direction. I think we can agree on that. Apply that same logic to the plausibility of Asherah turning into Asher.
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The leap to claim that Asherah herself survived as a hidden goddess in the text of Malachi, Revelation, and the modern Hebrew vocabulary is a massive stretch. It conflates linguistic inheritance and literary archetypes with actual, continuous religious worship.
I’ve got to go. But do some research on this subject - Israelites/judahites worshipped the goddess all throughout the Persian Period and Greek period up to about the Hasmonean period. It’s based on archaeological evidence of inscriptions on unearthed homes and buildings and goddess figurines (idols) found throughout the land, and that practice of goddess worship was strong but seems to have suddenly died off around 160BC.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:56 am to AlterEd
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you will never hear me deny the existence of leprechauns.
Well alright!
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Maybe you try again if you like. But it isn't going to change my view.
I’d rather give you your time back to read the first few chapters of the Hypostasis of the Archons and let me know your general thoughts.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:32 am to AlterEd
Religious leaders have known about this since forever, as have the flock. Only the ignorant atheists seem surprised.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:33 am to Squirrelmeister
You got a demon riding you. Good luck with that.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:33 am to John somers
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John somers
Did you have a stroke or something?
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