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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation

Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:36 pm to
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I've been begging for this thread to remain on topic. They can't let it go.

The topic is "Bible changing" Revelation about UFOs. There are no Bible Changing revelations.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:37 pm to
I played Polybius in Area 51. A secret code inside the Bible said I would.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 3:38 pm
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:38 pm to
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The topic is "Bible changing" Revelation about UFOs.


Right. So the topic should be centered on this idea. Not whether or not the Bible would be invalidated by "aliens" or whether or not individuals within the thread are Christians or not. This thread is over 50 pages in length and there's just a handful of participants who refuse to keep the thread on topic. As I said about 20 pages back, they have made the thread unreadable and I've tried to bring it back on topic, but to little avail.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47032 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:44 pm to
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The hell if it's not. You took us down this tangent where you're questioning my faith which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
Let's recap how we got here:

1) You said: "These conversations will always end the same way and it's why I don't tend to engage with you much. It's a waste of time. By now you should have realized that you participating in fruitless debate and give up as the Bible tells you to." LINK

2) I said: "It's not a fruitless debate or discussion when it is in a public forum, being read by others. If this were a private discussion, I would not engage you as I am, because you are lost and need to be saved through Jesus Christ, and these arguments are truly fruitless without you being converted. But because this is more or less a public discussion, I engage for the sake of others who are reading it." LINK

3) In response to this comment, you said: "Look at the arrogance on display here" LINK

4) I then asked if you were a Christian (summarized) LINK

5) You responded that you don't believe the biblical model of salvation (summarized) LINK


Now I'll summarize this: You said it was a waste of time to engage me in these conversations (that may be true for you), but then implied that I wasn't following the Bible by continuing to participate in a "fruitless debate". I responded that it wasn't fruitless because it's a public debate, and that since you aren't a Christian, I wouldn't engage you this way if it were merely private, as it wouldn't do any good for you without you being saved. You accused me of being arrogant for saying you weren't weren't saved, so I asked you if you believed the basic gospel message to indicate whether or not you at least were giving assent to the only way of salvation (as I understand it), in order to justify my statement about you not being a Christian.

This digression (as you are asserting) occurred because you first implied that I wasn't being consistent as a Christian for engaging in discussion with you, and then you called me arrogant for believing what the Bible teaches. I attempted to justify my position by asking you a question about salvation, and now you are accusing me of going off-topic. You were the one who did that.

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You asked the fricking question. For fricks sake.
See above. You were the one accusing me of not acting according to the Bible and then criticized me for going off-topic by defending myself.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12915 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:47 pm to
All nonsense. You skipped the part where you accused me of not believing the Bible. The first part you quoted was me explaining to you what you should have already known if you had read the damn OP of the thread. That being, where I said that this stuff is going to end up validating the Bible, not refuting it. The rest was a consequence of you just being your argumentative self.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3787 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:28 pm to
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At the very least, I think that these verses mark some stage of a transition to monotheism. I agree that it's not blatantly stated but it points towards a movement, imo.

By the definitions I use I would refer to this as henotheism. But then again I don’t think there is a single monotheistic religion on earth. It’s all henotheism or polytheism.

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Chapter 44 This is what the Lord says— Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God. 7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it. Let him declare and lay out before me what has happened since I established my ancient people, and what is yet to come— yes, let them foretell what will come.

Yahweh uses similar language to psalm 89:
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6For who in the skies can be compared to the LORD? Who among the heavenly beings is like the LORD, 7a God greatly to be feared in the council of the holy ones, and awesome above all who are around him?

It also has echos of the end of Job when Yahweh asked Job was he there when he made the earth, measured its cornerstones, made the firmament, etc.

Back to Isaiah 44: who is like me? That implies there are others that could be compared to Yahweh. Let him proclaim it. That implies there are others who could potentially proclaim such a thing. It’s henotheism. It’s boasting that Yahweh is better than all the other gods and it’s only Yahweh that is worthy of worship.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3787 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:32 pm to
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Richard Carrier At least we now know the source of your fringe conspiracy theories about Jesus.

Attack the person instead of addressing the relevant subject matter. Set a great example for future fallacious arguments of your ilk.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14877 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:34 pm to
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Attack the person instead of addressing the relevant subject matter.

When said person is a nutcase... yeah. Attack the nutcase. His work is garbage.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12915 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:47 pm to
Again, I don't see how the historicity of Jesus is relevant to the subject matter.

Whether Enoch, Moses, or Jesus existed doesn't change the fact that Christians believe they did. The subject at hand is upcoming UFO disclosures that will bring with them Bible changing revelations.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 4:51 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47032 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:57 pm to
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All nonsense. You skipped the part where you accused me of not believing the Bible.
That part wasn't necessary to show the progression based on your accusion.

You don't believe the Bible, though. You have reinterpreted the Bible to make it fit your own belief system.

Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158364 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:58 pm to
Why is this thread still going?

Dang
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12915 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:05 pm to
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Why is this thread still going?


Because we talk about cool shite while you jerk off to Ron Desantis and Thomas Massie posters.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 5:08 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47032 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Attack the person instead of addressing the relevant subject matter. Set a great example for future fallacious arguments of your ilk.
I've addressed his stuff through you as his medium for months, if not years, on this site. You can't talk about Christianity without using his material.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12915 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:15 pm to
As everyone can see, they just insist on remaining off topic entirely. This guy above cannot stop arguing. Nor can the other guy. And it wouldn't be a big deal if they were arguing about the actual frickin topic, but they won't.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12915 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:17 pm to
The total sum of your contribution to the actual thread topic literally consists of you insisting over and over that you are correct because of magic.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47032 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:23 pm to
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The total sum of your contribution to the actual thread topic literally consists of you insisting over and over that you are correct because of magic.
Not exactly. God's work in His own creation is not "magic", and I don't consider it magic.

I did spend quite a long time earlier in the thread discussing how the existence of biological life on other planets does not negatively impact Christianity. I also discussed Enoch briefly.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6936 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:24 pm to
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No it hasn't. I would love to see you prove a negative. Many people have come forward saying they were there. One person denied it. Many others have said they have since received the same briefing.

Bitch and cry all you want. I don't care.


Go watch Mike Winger's video about it. And without watching that, we already know these people are false prophets, and proven liars, many times over. They want your attention, and you're just eating it up.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12915 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:28 pm to
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I also discussed Enoch briefly.


Point taken. But as to the point about biological life from elsewhere negatively impacting Christianity, that isn't exactly what happened. It was the better part of 40 pages where you went back and forth with someone who was claiming that aliens coming to earth would invalidate the Bible. This is not the topic of the thread. That was 40 pages of just exhaustive reading that had no real bearing on the topic at hand.

By the same token that I'm telling squirrel that the historicity of Jesus isn't the topic, the topic is also not aliens invalidating the Bible. "Bible changing" is not the same thing as "Bible cancelling." And don't give me any shite about the biblical word being immutable or definitive. If that were the case there wouldn't be 3 separate religions based on the source material and hundreds of different Christian denominations.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12915 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:33 pm to
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And without watching that, we already know these people are false prophets


Who is?

Also:

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They want your attention, and you're just eating it up.


Again, who are you talking about? Which names have I promoted in this thread that people should pay attention to? Tim Burchett? Are you calling him one of these "false prophets?"
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158364 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:42 pm to
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