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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 5/30/26 at 12:49 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 5/30/26 at 12:49 pm to AlterEd
quote:As I said before, having a collective memory of events being passed down (creation and the flood, in particular) should be expected, but what matters is what the truth is. Having similarities in stories supports the idea of a common historical memory, but the truth isn’t based merely on chronology.
What I've just been telling the user Mo Jeaux could apply to foo too. Not only does the Bible retell the Sumerian stories, but the patriarch of Judaism (and therefore Christianity and Islam too) literally came from Sumer. The idea that they were not rehashing older myths is just fricking absurd.
quote:There is an obvious connection in the sense of a common historical memory, but not necessarily a direct dependency from one to the other, as you are trying to argue.
But as I said before, there is no sense talking about it with someone who is going to deny this obvious connection because of the "supernatural aspects of the Bible."
If the flood happened, there would likely be a memory of it passed down through generations. The details of it could change over time and be passed down to subsequent generations. I would argue that that is what we see in the historical record.
What we find with the Bible is a correction of that memory by God, who provides the information of what happened previously to be recorded and kept by the Hebrews so that they know of God’s power and purpose in creation.
So, there can still be a shared memory of an event where a subsequent supernatural act (God providing clarifying revelation) ensures that the younger record is more accurate than the older record.
Because you discount the supernatural possibility of such revelation, you assume the older record is more reliable, or at least more original, than the younger record. That’s understandable given your worldview and underlying presuppositions, but I believe it is wrong.
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Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:45 pm to AlterEd
There was a nuclear war in the past. I'm sure a lot of folks are familiar with the Indian Vedic texts that describe a nuclear weapon. They clearly describe a mushroom cloud a blast that was brighter "than 10,000 suns", poisoned air that cause people fingernails and hair to fall out, soldiers throwing themselves in the river to wash off the poison, etc.
Here you'll see what the Sumerians said about this event. 7 different types of nuclear weapons and descriptions of each one. What I found most interesting in this video is how it describes a blast with an equivalence roughly that of which we saw when we dropped a bomb on Hiroshima and describes it exactly as a nuclear blast actually happens. First the blinding light followed milliseconds later by a thermal blast that incinerates everything within a certain radius, followed after by a pressure wave that flattens buildings and rips trees from the ground.
These are the things, if verified, that will cause people to look at the Bible differently. The Bible may be accurate, but it is a woefully inadequate historical document.
This also describes a weapon that sounds similar to what is seen in the biblical story of what happened to Sodom and Gomora.
Here you'll see what the Sumerians said about this event. 7 different types of nuclear weapons and descriptions of each one. What I found most interesting in this video is how it describes a blast with an equivalence roughly that of which we saw when we dropped a bomb on Hiroshima and describes it exactly as a nuclear blast actually happens. First the blinding light followed milliseconds later by a thermal blast that incinerates everything within a certain radius, followed after by a pressure wave that flattens buildings and rips trees from the ground.
These are the things, if verified, that will cause people to look at the Bible differently. The Bible may be accurate, but it is a woefully inadequate historical document.
This also describes a weapon that sounds similar to what is seen in the biblical story of what happened to Sodom and Gomora.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:42 pm to AlterEd
So Jesus was here on earth. He preached to humans here on earth and it is widely believed that the only way to heaven is through the acceptance of Jesus as the son of god.
How do aliens, who come from another planet, fit into that narrative?
How do aliens, who come from another planet, fit into that narrative?
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:57 pm to AlterEd
Do you feel like Trump trolled you this week? Sorry if this has already been discussed but the religious debates have made this thread useless.
Aliens.gov
Aliens.gov
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:08 pm to SlidellCajun
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How do aliens, who come from another planet, fit into that narrative?
I don't think they do come from another planet. I feel like they have been here longer than we have. Or, if they do come from another planet, it's a distinction that doesn't matter, because again, they've been here longer than we have. I don't think it's really fair to call them "aliens" if they were here before us.
It would be kinda similar to saying the Native Americans were foreigners because sometime in the remote past they crossed over from Asia and migrated into North America. We would be the Europeans coming up on them later and claiming the land for our own. No, they were here first. They may not originate here, but they were here before us.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:08 pm to Easy
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Do you feel like Trump trolled you this week?
No.
Posted on 5/30/26 at 11:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There are some subjects so massive they can't be left out of the Bible for the Bible to remain valid
The Bible is merely a gateway to faith. Faith is believing the unproven. If it was proven, it would just be science. All religions are flawed when you apply science and reason.
It is one of the first teachings of the Bible. Adam and Eve became corrupted because they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They gained reason, which alienated them from God. There is value in faith of the unknown. Even in mythology, Pandora released all evil into the world, but the only thing left in the box was Hope.
It is something that is human and provides inspiration.
You can choose to attack sources of faith, but they are not assailable by your reason or arguments. There is a mechanism that lies within faith in a belief that supercedes understanding and is proven through individual experience.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:14 pm to AlterEd
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Rep. Tim Burchett: "People are trying to block UFO disclosure because they're worried about the disruption to religions."
The bible says: "Professing themselves to be wise & they became fools." The congressman went on to say there are some very foolish behaviour by some very arrogant people.
He revealed he's spoken directly to the President and is 100% confident disclosure is coming.
Burchett emphasized that the American people are ready for the truth about UAPs, saying the real resistance comes from those fearing major societal and religious upheaval.
"I've talked with President Trump about this... I have 100% confidence he's going to deliver disclosure."
This is about transparency after decades of secrecy. The public deserves to know what our government has been briefed on.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:14 pm to AlterEd
Boebert was saying yesterday that the files she has had access to talk an awful lot about Stargates and Portals.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:16 pm to AlterEd
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Boebert was saying yesterday that the files she has had access to talk an awful lot about Stargates and Portals.
That's a fricking scholar to listen to.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:18 pm to wackatimesthree
I'm interested in her specific words. I do believe she is intelligent enough to read documents, note the repeated use of the words "Stargates" and "portals" and relay those accurately to interviewers.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:21 pm to wackatimesthree
Isn't it strange that all these people have seen all this crazy stuff, yet no one ever produces it?
Or is discussing classified info okay just as long as you don't verify it?
Or is discussing classified info okay just as long as you don't verify it?
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:24 pm to AUveritas
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Or is discussing classified info okay just as long as you don't verify it?
Trump has ordered it all declassified. And if you'll pay attention they're still being careful with what they say. Burchett has been pretty careful to only bring up what he says he is allowed to say at this time. I think they have been given the green light to talk about the stuff up to a certain point.
For instance, they will talk about incredible things they've seen on classified videos, but they won't describe exactly what it is they're talking about. Only that it's "incredible" in general terms.
We are waiting for the Pentagon to release the files.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:26 pm to AUveritas
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Isn't it strange that all these people have seen all this crazy stuff, yet no one ever produces it?
Or is discussing classified info okay just as long as you don't verify it?
Yeah, nothing about any of this seems legit to me. Including the videos that could easily be faked with a $9 a month subscription to an AI video website.
I'm the last person on this website to grasp for a conspiracy explanation, but this seems WAY more like a CIA psy-op than the government actually releasing previously classified information that they kept secret for 80 years because it would be so Earth-shattering if people knew about it.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:28 pm to wackatimesthree
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I'm the last person on this website to grasp for a conspiracy explanation,
And this is what makes this all so funny to me. These same people in here claiming this is all nonsense are the same frickin idiots that would be decrying anything else that represents an inconvenient truth a "conspiracy theory." Now that the government is coming clean they're suddenly the conspiracy theorists.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:36 pm to AlterEd
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And this is what makes this all so funny to me. These same people in here claiming this is all nonsense are the same frickin idiots that would be decrying anything else that represents an inconvenient truth a "conspiracy theory." Now that the government is coming clean they're suddenly the conspiracy theorists.
You're missing that the common denominator in the people who are very skeptical of this alien narrative and the same ones skeptical of the other conspiracy theories.
They are the people who actually evaluate the quality of the evidence and decide what they believe based on the most likely explanation given the facts rather than just what they want to be true or what they seek to inject drama into.
In this case, based on the quality of what has been released, HOW it's been released, and the lack of any obvious motive for it to be released at this time, Occam's Razor says it's more likely that this is a hoax rather than a legitimate reveal.
I don't disbelieve all conspiracy theories. Only the ones with no evidence to support them.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:38 pm to wackatimesthree
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They are the people who actually evaluate the quality of the evidence
You ain't gotta lie to kick it
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:41 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:42 pm to AlterEd
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You ain't gotta lie to kick it
I didn't.
Your evaluation of the "evidence" is equal to your evaluation of my post. That level of analysis is typical for you.
You just want it to be true, so you choose to believe every crackpot nonsense bit of info that anyone throws out there.
Why you want it so badly to be true, I still can't figure out. Like I have said before, if this is true, the most likely outcome for human beings is not good.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 2:43 pm to wackatimesthree
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