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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:53 am to Prodigal Son
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:53 am to Prodigal Son
The incompleteness creates the larger problems, though.
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Elaborate on this incompleteness, and the effects thereof, please.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
We were never meant to know all of God's secrets or know how and why he does what he does. Any Christian will tell you this.
Where are you guys getting this idea that the Bible is supposed to be the ultimate guide for all truth and knowledge of the universe?
Where are you guys getting this idea that the Bible is supposed to be the ultimate guide for all truth and knowledge of the universe?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:58 am to Prodigal Son
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Elaborate on this incompleteness, and the effects thereof, please.
I'll just copy/paste
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A better question is how significant a fact/variable would need to be in order to have an impact on Christianity by being left out of the Bible
A new holy book?
A new savior?
A proclamation of polytheism?
Clearly these would significantly change Christianity as it's understood on Earth, correct?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:59 am to BuckeyeGoon
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Where are you guys getting this idea that the Bible is supposed to be the ultimate guide for all truth and knowledge of the universe?
Don't panic
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:00 am to SlowFlowPro
youfunnyman
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:09 am to Kikicaca
I'm still kinda anticipating that we get our own The Day the Earth Stood Still moment.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Ok. This assumes that aliens exist (in the current, modern understanding of 4’ tall green men from outer space with big heads and large black eyes), and that the Bible makes no mention of them.
Both are (arguably) wrong. The Bible makes many references to supernatural beings (Sons of God, the heavenly host, the divine council, principalities/rulers/etc.). Check out Michael Heiser (RIP). The Bible is not incomplete in this regard. Any perceived incompleteness is just that- perceived.
In short, there is no impact on actual Christianity. The only impact will be that those who have been looking for the exit, will feel justified in doing so. This has no bearing on the end result.
John 6:39
“And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.”
Both are (arguably) wrong. The Bible makes many references to supernatural beings (Sons of God, the heavenly host, the divine council, principalities/rulers/etc.). Check out Michael Heiser (RIP). The Bible is not incomplete in this regard. Any perceived incompleteness is just that- perceived.
In short, there is no impact on actual Christianity. The only impact will be that those who have been looking for the exit, will feel justified in doing so. This has no bearing on the end result.
John 6:39
“And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.”
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:27 am to AlterEd
I also don't buy this idea that ancient people were so primitive that they thought people coming from somewhere else must be "Gods." The Sumerians (the source for most of the biblical stories to begin with) were very well aware of the idea of other planets. They had maps of our solar system and star charts 6,000 years ago. They weren't primitive at all.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 8:29 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:33 am to Prodigal Son
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Ok. This assumes that aliens exist (in the current, modern understanding of 4’ tall green men from outer space with big heads and large black eyes), and that the Bible makes no mention of them.
Correct. Both are the assumptions of the discussion.
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The Bible makes many references to supernatural beings
Ethereal beings; not corporeal/biological beings.
And the Bible in no way specifically mentions aliens "in the current, modern understanding of 4’ tall green men from outer space with big heads and large black eyes".
Now you can argue the men who wrote the bible didn't understand what those aliens were and turned them into ethereal beings, but that does more damage to the validity of the Bible than the gaps I'm discussing (within the context of this discussion and its assumptions).
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:34 am to AlterEd
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The Sumerians (the source for most of the biblical stories to begin with) were very well aware of the idea of other planets
They knew where the center of our galaxy is and it cannot be seen by the naked eye. Early Sumerians taught that humans came from a place other than Earth. In fact, many early civilizations claimed we came from "the stars".
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:36 am to AlterEd
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They weren't primitive at all.
Just because they had a rudimentary understanding of astronomy doesn't remove them from the primitive label. You're doing the strawman thing where you redefine someone else's argument to contort your argument inside of the strawman.
A picture of the sun and stars/planets that is not accurate to our solar system and has no concept of the details involved is primitive. Is it as primitive as the Paleolithic era? Of course not, but I'm just preemptively addressing a successive strawman attempt to pivot the conversation and use of "primitive".
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:39 am to AlterEd
quote:Can you elaborate on what you mean by this, and what implications you are drawing from it (other than thinking the Vedic texts are more accurate on this topic)?
The Hindu Vedic texts are going to prove to have been much more accurate in describing these things than the Bible was and that is something Christians will not want to accept. But it is unequivocally true.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:39 am to Ace Midnight
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Are they telling the Mullahs and Rabbis this? Or just Chrisitian leaders?
Interesting point. It’s almost like they only want to destroy the faith of Christians for some reason.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Ethereal beings; not corporeal/biological beings.
You continue to be wrong on this point. As has been pointed out to you numerous times now, the "Sons of God" are not ethereal beings. They procreated with human women. Meaning they are flesh and bone beings. Period. It does not matter how many times you say this - it remains false.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:44 am to FooManChoo
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by this, and what implications you are drawing from it (other than thinking the Vedic texts are more accurate on this topic)?
Ok. Let's take another look at what you said.
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Aliens existing do not open the door for other religions to be correct any more than the existence of Mormons does.
What I mean by this is simple. People will come to realize that religious texts other than the Bible will become a more primary source for looking at ancient descriptions of what these beings are and what they actually did here on Earth in "ancient times", as the Vedic texts describe them in very unambiguous terms whereas the Bible really only gives them the briefest of mentions.
Christianity will take a back seat to the other religious texts.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:49 am to Prodigal Son
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they only want to destroy the faith of Christians
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:56 am to themunch
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they only want to destroy the faith of Christians
How do people take it so personally?
Anything that would destroy Christians would destroy Muslims, Jews, and every other divinely based religion.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Just because they had a rudimentary understanding of astronomy doesn't remove them from the primitive label. You're doing the strawman thing where you redefine someone else's argument to contort your argument inside of the strawman.
Rudimentary? You are a damned fool if you think their astronomical knowledge was "rudimentary." In addition to mapping the planets, they had the suns ecliptic, developed one of the first lunar calendars which divided the sky into 12 sections (later becoming the zodiac), and developed the sexagesimal (base 60) system that we still use today for dividing hours into 60 minutes and circles into 360 degrees. Based on their "rudimentary" astronomical knowledge.
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You're doing the strawman thing where you redefine someone else's argument to contort your argument inside of the strawman.
you frickin fool. Speaking of fallacies, what you are engaging in here is called presentism. Or Whig History.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:00 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:11 am to AlterEd
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Imagine if they hadn't died for whatever reason.
And this of course would be explained if they had gone subterranean when extinction level events impacting the surface like what we read about with the ubiquitous flood myths across dispersed civilizations and dinosaur era meteor impacts.
Humanity could've been reset technologically like we would be if the internet and digital records were destroyed with population levels reduced to a few thousand globally while they retained legacy population numbers and their technology.
Then you look at the elites building underground bunkers and discussing extinction cycles and it all starts to be a bit concerning.
Again, not saying I believe it, just that it is somewhat plausible and I'm open to additional evidence particularly when so many people have come out as whistleblowers saying similar things which are now being verified with some of these releases.
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