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Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:49 pm to RollTide4547
Noah did not make a spaceship out of gopher wood.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:54 pm to CitizenK
quote:It's certainly not canonical (part of the Bible), but the book of Enoch was written before Jesus' incarnation.
Reference Book of Enoch = Nutter. It's something cobbled together long after Jesus.
Portion of 1 Enoch were founded with the Dead Sea Scrolls, and has been dated between 150 and 200 BC.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:56 pm to FooManChoo
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Portion of 1 Enoch were founded with the Dead Sea Scrolls, and has been dated between 150 and 200 BC.
300 BC on through the first century CE. It was written, or compiled, over the course of centuries by multiple authors. Which, I'm sure you're aware. Just stating it plainly for people who are claiming I said it was written by the Enoch.
I never said that, nor has anyone else.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:30 pm to FooManChoo
Both before and after per Wesley Huff
Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:45 pm to AlterEd
quote:I'm aware of the multiple authors and the multi-century writing for various parts of it.
300 BC on through the first century CE. It was written, or compiled, over the course of centuries by multiple authors. Which, I'm sure you're aware. Just stating it plainly for people who are claiming I said it was written by the Enoch.
I never said that, nor has anyone else.
My only point was to say that it's not true that it was written long after Jesus was around.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:45 pm to CitizenK
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Both before and after per Wesley Huff
Thanks for admitting that you were frickin wrong.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:46 pm to FooManChoo
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My only point was to say that it's not true that it was written long after Jesus was around.
Right. I gotcha. That's all I was saying too. Well, that and if the guy can't get that much right, maybe he shouldn't be calling people "nutters" over citing it.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:25 pm to AlterEd
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Enoch was compiled by various authors over a course of centuries during the second temple era.
Same with the Old Testament.
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But we also know they were copying from older works.
Same with the Old Testament.
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Could they have been copying from THE Enoch? I suppose, but it's hard to say.
Well there was no THE Enoch nor was there a first human. Per the biblical timeline, Enoch would have existed before we know writing systems (such as hieroglyphics and cuneiform) really existed.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:26 pm to AlterEd
So do you subscribe to the Ethiopian Orthodox bible, but not to the teachings of their church?
Honest question.
Honest question.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:29 pm to Squirrelmeister
I like how the most active thread about UFO disclosure is actually just a bible study discussion.
Alien day turned into a real dud.
Alien day turned into a real dud.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:53 pm to FooManChoo
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That's not what Jude says. It says that Enoch prophesied.
And he quoted it nearly word for word. That’s pretty strong evidence, Foo. Maybe you should consider all the other evidence I shared. The Qumran community believed it to be scripture. Tertullian believed it to be scripture. Just admit it.
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You are making the leap from a reference to a prophesy that is recorded in 1 Enoch to an acceptance that the entire book was written by Enoch.
Enoch is a fictional character, Foo. I understand that, but “Jude” certainly believed he was real and that he wrote that book. Same as Tertullian who wrote that Enoch wrote the book before the flood.
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Again, you are making the error of assuming that because Jude references something recorded in 1 Enoch, that Jude thought that 1 Enoch was written by Enoch. That is not a logical connection.
It goes past plausibility into high likelihood. We know Christians revered the book of 1 Enoch. We know copies were spread far and wide in 6 languages. We know Christians were familiar with the literature and we have established prior probability because other Christians like Tertullian wrote specifically that they believed 1 Enoch to be divinely inspired and written by THE Enoch (before the flood).
The only one making an error is you and your ilk.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 7:15 am
Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:56 pm to AlterEd
quote:no they won’t
Instead, these disclosures will force people to take another look at the context of the words within the Bible.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:00 pm to GRTiger
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I like how the most active thread about UFO disclosure is actually just a bible study discussion
It turned into exactly what it was always going to turn into.
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Alien day turned into a real dud.
It's anything but.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:00 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Enoch is a fictional character, Foo.
Who says that?
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:04 pm to AlterEd
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It's anything but.
It’s a dud. It’s nothing we haven’t already seen.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:05 pm to GRTiger
No this is how this conversation was always going to turn out. Wait till it starts getting weirder.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:06 pm to AlterEd
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It's anything but.
A legit data release in this area would stop markets and steal everyone's full attention.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:09 pm to GRTiger
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A legit data release in this area would stop markets and steal everyone's full attention.
Hence the need to slow roll it. The important part is that the cat is out of the bag. The thing that people like yourself have denied for decades is happening and you're still trying to claim it isn't a big deal. It's the most important story happening in the world today no matter how much you shills try to downplay it.
Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:11 pm to AlterEd
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Hence the need to slow roll it.
Come on. Something so earth shattering that it would stop the markets and make the entire world pay attention isn’t going to change because the information was slow rolled out. 
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