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re: “Relevant Statistics” Thread
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:20 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:20 pm to Korkstand
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If that's all you needed to hear, you could have stopped reading 15 pages ago.
My responses to you have been consistent and have asked what your conclusion is based on the data. You said your conclusions are the data. Seemed like you are detracting from the point.
I will tell you that the 45x multiple made no sense to me either. I read it twice and moved on to the more informative graphics. I don’t like manipulating statistics either, but I don’t think any argument hinges on this particular issue. But again, I understand why you take exception to the presentation of that analytic or whatever you want to call it.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:20 pm to Caplewood
Dang, i didnt realize Asians were hated so much.
I was reading this article basically shaming asians because even though they had it bad, they did not have it as bad as blacks. But yet they get killed by people outside their race more than anyone.
I was reading this article basically shaming asians because even though they had it bad, they did not have it as bad as blacks. But yet they get killed by people outside their race more than anyone.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:29 pm to Breesus
quote:The first, largest and most blatant one in the OP.
What lies?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:31 pm to Logician
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oh wow you must be really busy factchecking the news and twitter all day do you put this much effort into factchecking liberal talking points?
I take it by his downvoting you twice that the answer is no, he doesn't.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:35 pm to Logician
quote:I read what I read, and I fact-check what I read. Don't you?
oh wow you must be really busy factchecking the news and twitter all day
quote:I can almost guarantee that I put in much more effort fact-checking liberal talking points (and telling others the real facts) than you do fact-checking conservative ones.
do you put this much effort into factchecking liberal talking points?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:38 pm to Korkstand
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I can almost guarantee that I put in much more effort fact-checking liberal talking points (and telling others the real facts) than you do fact-checking conservative ones.
Assumption is the mother of all frick ups.
Seems you like to stir shite as well.
Oh, you're not staying on topic. That was important to you, remember?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:52 pm to Korkstand
I can almost guarantee that you put much more effort in upvoting and downvoting, along with your alter, than you do fact checking anything.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:53 pm to OceanMan
quote:How, exactly, does pointing out a wild exaggeration detract from the point? The only way that can be true is if the point was to wildly exaggerate.
My responses to you have been consistent and have asked what your conclusion is based on the data. You said your conclusions are the data. Seemed like you are detracting from the point.
quote:Did you notice that in most (all?) of the graphics, the figures were adjusted for demographics ("per...") when it made black violence look worse, but the figures were NOT adjusted for demographics when it would make the black victims look worse? See the chart on police killings per race. Why wasn't that adjusted for demographics? Because it would make it look like police target black people.
I will tell you that the 45x multiple made no sense to me either. I read it twice and moved on to the more informative graphics.
All of these graphics were crafted with a specific purpose, and the data has been cherry-picked and manipulated in order to promote an agenda. Everyone is manipulated at times. I'm trying to help people realize when it's happening to them.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:57 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:Yep, and you are doing more of that than anyone in here. You assume I have an alter. I do not. You assume that I am downvoting people. I am not. You assume that I am stupid because you still don't understand what I'm talking about. I am not.
Assumption is the mother of all frick ups.
quote:He says as he stirs shite.
Seems you like to stir shite as well.
quote:I responded to a question directed at me, and it was still on topic as it relates to the OP. You, on the other hand, have yet to make a single on-topic comment in this thread.
Oh, you're not staying on topic. That was important to you, remember?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:01 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:More false assumptions, and still unwilling to take the very first step in trying to verify those assumptions. In fact, when I told you how to verify and fact-check yourself, you responded "that's what little bitches do".
I can almost guarantee that you put much more effort in upvoting and downvoting, along with your alter, than you do fact checking anything.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:04 pm to Korkstand
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Yep, and you are doing more of that than anyone in here. You assume I have an alter. I do not. You assume that I am downvoting people. I am not. You assume that I am stupid because you still don't understand what I'm talking about. I am not.
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He says as he stirs shite.
Nice deflection, Wonder Woman
quote:
I responded to a question directed at me, and it was still on topic as it relates to the OP. You, on the other hand, have yet to make a single on-topic comment in this thread.
Oh no, you were adamant about staying on the actual topic of the OP. Don't crawfish now.
BTW, no one is upvoting you or downvoting others so that puts it all on you.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:05 pm to Korkstand
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More false assumptions, and still unwilling to take the very first step in trying to verify those assumptions. In fact, when I told you how to verify and fact-check yourself, you responded "that's what little bitches do".
No more than your ridiculous claim that you "fact check" more than anyone else. I sure don't need you of all people telling me to do anything, I actually want truth, not your continued manipulation.
and my response still stands.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:06 pm to Jrv2damac
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You tried, Kockstand.
Korkalter is more applicable
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:12 pm to Korkstand
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I can almost guarantee that I put in much more effort fact-checking liberal talking points (and telling others the real facts) than you do fact-checking conservative ones.
can you link some of these conservative talking points you're defending or some liberal ones you're criticizing?
btw i agree with your original point about the "45x more likely" statistic
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:14 pm to Jrv2damac
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Alter for whom?
That I don't know. He went on a spree of downvoting others and upvoting himself twice especially the last 5-6 pages. I guess he thinks people don't notice that. He was massively downvoted earlier in the thread for his BS.
It's all good though, I enjoy him and his paragraphs.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:17 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:100% of your posts are deflection. You have not addressed the topic or my points once single time.
Nice deflection
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:18 pm to Korkstand
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100% of your posts are deflection. You have not addressed the topic or my points once single time.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 3:18 pm to Korkstand
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That is not MY premise. MY premise is that the statement "blacks commit 45X more violence against whites" is deceitful, malicious, and straight up false. It is an intentionally misleading conclusion drawn using bunk math that ignores the nature of dependent variables.
I can't believe that nobody else can see this. Are they blind?
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