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Regarding the 2.2 Trillion, Trump said thanks for the input, I'll take it under advisement

Posted on 3/27/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 6:56 pm
Let's look at what Trump actually did today. Sorry this is long but its important.

He just gave the BTFO to the pork in this bill!!!

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Statement by the President
HEALTHCARE

Issued on: March 27, 2020


Today, I have signed into law H.R. 748, the “Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act” or the “CARES” Act (the “Act”). The Act makes emergency supplemental appropriations and other changes to law to help the Nation respond to the coronavirus outbreak. I note, however, that the Act includes several provisions that raise constitutional concerns.

Section 15010(c)(3)(B) of Division B of the Act purports to require the Chairperson of the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency to consult with members of the Congress regarding the selection of the Executive Director and Deputy Executive Director for the newly formed Pandemic Response Accountability Committee. The Committee is an executive branch entity charged with conducting and coordinating oversight of the Federal Government’s response to the coronavirus outbreak. I anticipate that the Chairperson will be able to consult with members of the Congress with respect to these hiring decisions and will welcome their input. But a requirement to consult with the Congress regarding executive decision-making, including with respect to the President’s Article II authority to oversee executive branch operations, violates the separation of powers by intruding upon the President’s power and duty to supervise the staffing of the executive branch under Article II, section 1 (vesting the President with the “executive Power”) and Article II, section 3 (instructing the President to “take Care” that the laws are faithfully executed). Accordingly, my Administration will treat this provision as hortatory but not mandatory.

Section 4018 of Division A of the Act establishes a new Special Inspector General for Pandemic Recovery (SIGPR) within the Department of the Treasury to manage audits and investigations of loans and investments made by the Secretary of the Treasury under the Act. Section 4018(e)(4)(B) of the Act authorizes the SIGPR to request information from other government agencies and requires the SIGPR to report to the Congress “without delay” any refusal of such a request that “in the judgment of the Special Inspector General” is unreasonable. I do not understand, and my Administration will not treat, this provision as permitting the SIGPR to issue reports to the Congress without the presidential supervision required by the Take Care Clause, Article II, section 3.

Certain other provisions (such as sections 20001, 21007, and 21010 of Division B of the Act) purport to condition the authority of officers to spend or reallocate funds upon consultation with, or the approval of, one or more congressional committees. These provisions are impermissible forms of congressional aggrandizement with respect to the execution of the laws. The Congress may affect the execution of the laws only by enacting a new statute in accordance with the requirements of bicameralism and presentment prescribed in Article I, section 7. My Administration will make appropriate efforts to notify the relevant committees before taking the specified actions and will accord the recommendations of such committees all appropriate and serious consideration, but it will not treat spending decisions as dependent on prior consultation with or the approval of congressional committees.

Finally, several provisions (such as sections 3511(d)(4) and 3862 (creating section 744N(d)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act) of Division A of the Act) purport to require recommendations regarding legislation to the Congress. Because Article II, section 3 gives the President the authority to recommend only “such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient,” my Administration will continue the practice of treating provisions like these as advisory and non-binding.

DONALD J. TRUMP
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
6766 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 6:57 pm to
Hopefully the socialist pork that was added gets shut down by Donald.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

my Administration will continue the practice of treating provisions like these as advisory and non-binding.



My man....
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:05 pm to
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11494 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:06 pm to
The entire bill is Socialist Pork.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:06 pm to
The Magnificent Orange SOB rides again!
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

The Magnificent Orange SOB rides again!


Stable genius indeed!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98485 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:12 pm to
The dick is big...and it swings
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:17 pm to
How is any of that limiting any "pork" in the bill? To me, it just means Trump plans to direct the $500B in discretionary spending put in the bill in the Senate without congressional oversight.

Am I missing something?
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

How is any of that limiting any "pork" in the bill? To me, it just means Trump plans to direct the $500B in discretionary spending put in the bill in the Senate without congressional oversight.

Am I missing something?


Those parts were put in to try and limit trumps power, and force him to appease liberal committee's (as it tries to use just language of just 1 committee being unhappy with a certain allocation/congress itself unhappy)

What trump basically has said is his admin realizes he doesn't have to do any of this due to laws before hand, and will not allow his authority to be undermined further by partisan actors.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Am I missing something?


Yeah, this:
only “such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient,”

So if he deems something not necessary or expedient (which is defined as: convenient and practical although possibly improper or immoral) he is reserving the right to not enact it. He finds these things as suggestions and non binding.

He's saying he has full authority to enforce as he sees fit.

Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:31 pm to
quote:


He's saying he has full authority to enforce as he sees fit.

The Executive Branch is defined as the enforcement branch after all.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

How is any of that limiting any "pork" in the bill? To me, it just means Trump plans to direct the $500B in discretionary spending put in the bill in the Senate without congressional oversight.

Am I missing something?

No. You got it exactly right.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68045 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:51 pm to
Is the Kennedy Center getting its 25,000,000? The NEA getting its 75,000,000?

What happened to the voting by mail?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48897 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

How is any of that limiting any "pork" in the bill? To me, it just means Trump plans to direct the $500B in discretionary spending put in the bill in the Senate without congressional oversight.

Am I missing something?


Yeah. They want power. He said no, I have the power.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 7:57 pm to
Can someone in easy English tell me the bottom line of what this means?
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

Can someone in easy English tell me the bottom line of what this means?


Trump reserves the right to enforce how he sees fit. He doesn't see the "suggestions" as binding. He will enforce what is relevant.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68045 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:00 pm to
The dems had millions in pork directed towards some of their pet projects. There was also mention of the stimulus including new requirements for voting like requiring all states to have early voting and possible vote by mail.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

There was also mention of the stimulus including new requirements for voting like requiring all states to have early voting and possible vote by mail.


If the President deems it unnecessary, he will choose not to enforce that section.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 8:15 pm to
Let's look at the first part.
quote:

the Act purports to require the Chairperson of the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency to consult with members of the Congress regarding the selection of the Executive Director and Deputy Executive Director for the newly formed Pandemic Response Accountability Committee.


There will be an accountability committee formed to make sure the spending is on the up and up.

Congress wants to dictate who the two heads of that committee should be.

Trump said no. It's an Executive branch job, I get to hire the people for those jobs.
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