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Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:37 am to udtiger
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You know how I know you're stupid?
FOX and Rush told you so.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:39 am to bamafan1001
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I know right. All those poor people in Central America and Africa. We should pay for them too!
Its either all or nothing.
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It isn't fair that America has good healthcare while the rest of the world doesn't!
Actually most of the rest of the industrialized world has better health care for the typical man than the U.S. BUt don't worry about that. Commies nanny staters bla bla bla personal responsibility freedom liberty
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:39 am to SpidermanTUba
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quote:You know how I know you're stupid? FOX and Rush told you so.
No. Your posts are all the evidence I need.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:41 am to SpidermanTUba
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Actually most of the rest of the industrialized world has better health care for the typical man than the U.S.
No, they don't.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:42 am to udtiger
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No. Your posts are all the evidence I need.
You wouldn't know evidence if it knocked you upside the face.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:43 am to the808bass
The U.S. is first in health care spending
ya. 38th in actual health care though.
LINK
ya. 38th in actual health care though.
LINK
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:44 am to SpidermanTUba
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Actually most of the rest of the industrialized world has better health care for the typical man than the U.S. BUt don't worry about that. Commies nanny staters bla bla bla personal responsibility freedom liberty
All of the rest of the industrialized world has better corp. tax rates than the US.
Can you please bring something besides emotional pleas into the argument? Changing policy or even forming opinions on policy based on "let the poor die, right?" or "other countries do it" is not a very strong starting point....for a rational thinker. It does wonders to influence the non-rational emotional thinkers, though. Wonder which one you are???
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:45 am to SpidermanTUba
Please tell me this is based on mortality rates.
PLEASE!!!!
PLEASE!!!!
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:46 am to SpidermanTUba
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The U.S. is first in health care spending
Has obamacare helped or hurt that number?
Do you support obamacare?
2 yes or no answers if you don't mind.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:46 am to BBONDS25
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All of the rest of the industrialized world has better corp. tax rates than the US.
And they typically have higher income tax rates, higher VATs, higher vice taxes, higher fuel taxes - in fact - just about higher every other tax you can think of. ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE THAT TRADE? Because I'm down. You wanna gid rid of the corporate tax and up the tax rate on the wealthy 10% - quadruple the gas tax and smoke taxes, throw in some VATs - OK - now we're talkin.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:47 am to SpidermanTUba
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And they typically have higher income tax rates, higher VATs, higher vice taxes, higher fuel taxes - in fact - just about higher every other tax you can think of. ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE THAT TRADE? Because I'm down. You wanna gid rid of the corporate tax and up the tax rate on the wealthy 10% - quadruple the gas tax and smoke taxes, throw in some VATs - OK - now we're talkin.
You are in over your head on a tax discussion with me. The point I was making...which you obviously ignored...is it appears almost every response you make on this board is from an emotional, but not rational, place. Sarcasm and/or irrelevant facts meant to illicit an emotional response. Not the best way to make a compelling rational argument.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:48 am to SpidermanTUba
That ranking is in large part based upon the amount of socialized medicine a country has.
The second major flaw of it is turning life expectancies into a healthcare data point with no other supporting data. IOW, a person dying in a car crash is counted as a mark against the healthcare system.
The second major flaw of it is turning life expectancies into a healthcare data point with no other supporting data. IOW, a person dying in a car crash is counted as a mark against the healthcare system.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:04 am to BBONDS25
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You are in over your head on a tax discussion with me. The point I was making...which you obviously ignored...is it appears almost every response you make on this board is from an emotional, but not rational, place.
It would appear like that to a bonehead, yes. I understand.
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Sarcasm and/or irrelevant facts meant to illicit an emotional response
OH! So now I'm responsible for your emotions. I get it.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:08 am to the808bass
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That ranking is in large part based upon the amount of socialized medicine a country has.
Well hey let's just make up our own ranking and say U.S. #1. That's a lot more scientific.
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The second major flaw of it is turning life expectancies into a healthcare data point with no other supporting data.
Because results don't actually matter when your horse isn't the one in the lead (you're just gambling for fun when that happens!)
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IOW, a person dying in a car crash is counted as a mark against the healthcare system.
That's probably the driving factor in life expectancies - car crashes. You're figured it out. How long people live certainly is not in any way shape or form related to the quality of health care they receive.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:13 am to SpidermanTUba
Actually, if you take out homicides and car crashes, the US has the best life expectancy.
LINK
So yeah. Car crashes and homicides are driving our life expectancy numbers. It sucks when you know as little as you do and think you know so much more.
LINK
So yeah. Car crashes and homicides are driving our life expectancy numbers. It sucks when you know as little as you do and think you know so much more.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 10:24 am to the808bass
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Actually, if you take out homicides and car crashes, the US has the best life expectancy.
Plus, if the US used the same metric for infant mortality that other "industrialized" nations did, THAT number would be much, much better as well.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:04 pm to Layabout
quote:Link?
Better to let the poor people die in the streets, right?
Posted on 8/11/14 at 12:22 pm to Layabout
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Better to let the poor people die in the streets, right? They're just leeches anyway.
Yeah, here in BR, they're just dropping like flies.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 1:22 pm to SpidermanTUba
dp
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 1:53 pm
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