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re: Red states have the highest crime in the country

Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:57 pm to
Posted by roothog1
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:57 pm to
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That these cities became wastelands isn't really on the citizenry IMO. This was planned across the board for all major US cities.

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Search any of the above "high crime rate" cities before WW2 and you'll be both shocked and saddened by the BEFORE / AFTER post WW2 cities became within 15-20 years. Operation: City Negligence aka, "Urban Renewal" plans were really about.

ALL these cities pre-WW2 were beautiful. Maybe not have been totally safe, but that always been "life in the city". And certainly not (purposely, by design) made a mess, neglected, and its classic olde world architecture knocked down, razed &demolished for no good reason.

Olde Nawlins, Little Rock, many southern towns/cities that were gorgeous in the 1800s -- up to pre-WW2.




This is a result of federal policies, mainly the interstate system, but obviously also the hollowing out of the industrial base which came later. Not to say that was entirely bad, there were a lot of positives for the Western half of the country, but basically that disrupted the natural route of how goods transported throughout the country (which was via the rivers). It also increased the importance of other cities at the expense of previously wealthy ones.

So for example, Buffalo, NY once was the wealthiest city in America at the turn of the century. Not only is it still the best planned American city, it also has fantastic architecture. It's the only city in the country to have had one of America's 4 most prominent architects (Frank Lloyd Wright, Louis Sullivan, Daniel Burnham and Frederick Olmstead) design either a park or building. Yet Buffalo got completely disrupted by the highway system because of its geographic prominence connecting NYC (via the Erie Canal) to Detroit & Chicago. Not to mention how the highways cut through this idealistically planned American city. St. Louis is another example of this.

Effectively, there was a massive wealth transfer to places like Phoenix, Vegas, Bay Area, LA, etc. all of which benefitted because of the interstate system, plus air conditioning for the Sunbelt areas. If you look at average home value data by city in the 1920s, the wealthiest cities which have since lost the most prominence in relative values ever since, the ones which standout are Buffalo, New Orleans, St. Louis, Detroit, Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, Newark, Richmond, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Youngstown. Not to mention, there were other cities like Baltimore, Cincinnati, Louisville, etc. who were on their way to being a lot wealthier too and had experienced a ton of growth up until the war / interstate system.

Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7716 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:31 am to
Demographics.
Red Southern states have way more blacks.
Blacks are 13% population, yet over 50% violent crime.
There's zero way "Southern Red States" don't have high violent crime rates.
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:12 am to
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When it is legal to steal $900 a day, in some blue states that drastically reduces crime statistics


I don’t think that’s the California law. It’s just a misdemeanor and not a felony. I just left the shite hole, so I’m not defending it, just clarifying.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85846 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:21 am to
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A lot of yall have comprehension issues. I’m saying why are red states governors allowing blue cities to destroy their state.


Like Louisiana? We had a dem governor the past 8 years.






Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85846 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:23 am to
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Red states also receive more federal dollars than blue states.


There are more red states but Cali receives the most federal funding.

If you are talking the aggregate then sure.

And when doing per person, it’s DC.

So again, blue sits at the top any way you slice it.





This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 7:28 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:24 am to
And that’s an excellent point, and begs the question why we don’t just focus on cities alone for where the crime is coming from and who’s in charge?

Well, obviously because that doesn’t fit the political narrative they are trying to portray, that it’s red states with the problem rather than blue leadership, or lack thereof.


Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15433 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:29 am to
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After WW2 is when the government enforced racial segregation in housing through redlining and other policies. We are enjoying the fruits of those policies to this day


Yeah, it’s the fault of all those racist whiteys who didn’t want to be victims of crime and send their kids to terrible schools.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37102 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:31 am to
Our governor and legislature have tried to help Jackson but lawsuit after lawsuit stands in the way. If interested, search Mississippi HB1020
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12118 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:34 am to
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there’s a common denominator


Annoying people?!
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32442 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:36 am to
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After WW2 is when the government enforced racial segregation in housing through redlining and other policies. We are enjoying the fruits of those policies to this day


Redlining predates WWII
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3254 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:38 am to
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Because of blue cities, why don’t these red state governors do anything to get these rouge DAs and police force in check for bringing down their state? Instead they act like powerless children who can do nothing and allow these cities to drag down the entire state.
Imagine the backlash if Governor Landry spoke the truth and attacked the actual problem.

People would lose their mind if he created a task force in BR, NOLA and Shreveport to tackle crime. They would call him racist and Hitler. We all know the issue in those cities, hell we know the issue in this country but anything about it is deemed racist.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14111 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:11 am to
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why are red states governors allowing blue cities to destroy their state.


The Cancerous Democrats, from cities like Memphis, continually make their arguments and the Liberal Press frames it is such a way that ignorant citizens nod in approval.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32442 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:36 am to
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People would lose their mind if he created a task force in BR, NOLA and Shreveport to tackle crime


How would this task force work?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63062 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:42 am to
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That these cities became wastelands isn't really on the citizenry IMO. This was planned across the board for all major US cities.

wut?
quote:

Search any of the above "high crime rate" cities before WW2 and you'll be both shocked and saddened by the BEFORE / AFTER post WW2 cities became within 15-20 years.
Detroit was called the 'Paris of the West' until the mid 60's. It declined when blacks from the south migrated in massive numbers because of promised freebies. Several other cities have the same story.

But leftists are sociopaths. Nothing is ever their fault.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
10929 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:47 am to
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Red states have the highest crime in the country

Sounds like the laws are being enforced in these states
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4885 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:49 am to
I'm sorry but did you fail 3rd grade geography? You listed cities. OP said states. The point is the blue CITIES in the red STATES are dragging down the states. Just because the blue cities in blue states you listed are extremely high on the list does not mean that they are bad enough to drag down the rest of those states. Outside of Chicago, the state of Illinois is not close to as bad as Louisiana.

You need to grasp that the smaller, poorer cities/parishes along the river are shitholes when it comes to crime as well. Sometimes worse than New Orleans and Baton Rouge. They do their part dragging down the state average


Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8980 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:50 am to
I want to see MeMaw come in and take over the Birmingham City council.

Second thought, do everyone a favor and take over the water Board first.

I have a good idea where the gangs hang out. When the sun sets is when the game is on
Posted by self_service
Member since Oct 2016
685 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:58 am to
Do it by county.
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3254 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:25 am to
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How would this task force work?
For starters arrest criminals, charge and prosecute them. I’m sure if they need help I can assist with the details.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32442 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:27 am to
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For starters arrest criminals, charge and prosecute them.


Does the state do it or take over Orleans Parish DA/NOPD?
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