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Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:18 pm to darnol91
The seat belt can keep the driver in place to maintain control of the car for a longer period(seconds matter) in many cases, saving life and property. Not saying I necessarily agree with legislation, but I see the reasoning.
Helmets on motorcyclists do nothing to protect anybody but the driver.
Helmets on motorcyclists do nothing to protect anybody but the driver.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:26 pm to larry289
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Sign a waiver with the state that you abstain from wearing protective head gear you forfeit your right to insurance protection and payments to trauma center for injuries to your noggin'. I'm good if this is incorporated...you remain insured and other parts of your body are covered. Other law is as now.
So, fat people must sign the same waiver ('I abstain from being normal size...)? If not, explain why your logic is consistent.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:30 pm to ApexTiger
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I actually feel safer with my belt on...
Why is feeling that way good? Homeostasis says 'feeling safe = greater risk taking.' If you wanted to be really safe in your car then don't wear a seat belt and mount a dagger on your steering wheel with the tip pointed at your heart. You would be amazed at how safely you drive.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:31 pm to Zach
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If laws which merely protect an individual from risking his own safety are justified, then police should ticket fat drivers. Being fat increases your risk of heart attack, stroke and diabetes.
Therefore, cops should carry a scale and a healthy weight chart in their squad car and ticket you five bucks per every pound over ideal weight.
If you are opposed to this idea yet in favor of seat belt laws then you have severe problems with logic.
It protects the general public from higher auto and medical insurance costs because of their sheer stupidity. I would be fine with making fat people sign up for fat people insurance and allow me to lower my cost because I have self worth.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:36 pm to TrackDawg
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It protects the general public from higher auto and medical insurance costs because of your sheer stupidity.
The impact of the overweight/obese on the general public's medical insurance costs are 1,000 times bigger than the impact of someone not wearing a helmet or seat belt.
Wanna try again?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:37 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:When I was 18 my first scooter was an old 1979 Kawasaki KZ1000 that had been retrofitted with Macuni smooth bore carbs and extended swingarm. She would flat scream.
a bee flies into your face mask
I was hauling arse to my girlfriend's house one town away, on a narrow 4 mile long paved road through the country that connected our two towns. Speed limit was 35 and I was well in excess of 3x speed limit when a bumblebee hit me in the face and knocked one lens of my glasses out, giving me a black eye on the right side.
I kept her on the road but it scared the shite out of me. I wore a helmet every single ride for at least 5 years after that. It also moved me to switch from old school muscle rockets to bigger, more comfortable cruisers.
Statistically, helmets are a good thing. And not to detract from that, but about half of my friends throughout this life thus far are frequent riders. And it's been 10 to 1 on single vehicle deaths vs. motorcycle deaths from crashes. The one motorcycle death was a friend who was partying with her boyfriend as a Prospect to the Outlaw MCC. She hopped on the back of some other dude's scooter and they made it half a block before losing it and she went head first into the curb. In that particular instance, a helmet would have only allowed for open-casket at her funeral.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 12:40 pm to The Maj
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Government should just ban motorcycles...
You assholes love freedom.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:00 pm to darnol91
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What are your thoughts on the reasoning behind states legislating seat belt laws, but not motorcycle helmet laws?
Seat belts in cars can actually reduce injury, thus reducing medical bills and insurance payments by a measurable margin. Motorcycle helmets don't provide significant reduction in injuries when in a serious accident, at least when it comes to the medical bills and insurance claims.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:04 pm to Zach
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The impact of the overweight/obese on the general public's medical insurance costs are 1,000 times bigger than the impact of someone not wearing a helmet or seat belt.
The scale does not negate that it IS an effect. Do you get to dictate how much of my money you can take? Wanna try again?
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:09 pm to Zach
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'self assumed risk'
We, as a society and culture, have a problem with people controlling their own lives and decisions. Whether it be seat belt laws, drugs (medicinal and recreational), etc. laws that are there to "protect you from yourself" have infiltrated the American societal fabric, completely contrary to the personal autonomy devised by the founders.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:10 pm to ApexTiger
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I actually feel safer with my belt on...
That's nice, but you aren't.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:14 pm to TrackDawg
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The scale does not negate that it IS an effect. Do you get to dictate how much of my money you can take? Wanna try again?
I'll try again to explain what I've already explained. Read carefully.
They are both effects. Therefore, if you are logical then you advocate the financial punishment of the fat. Tickets for the fat. Punish the fat for the general good.
Are you in favor of anti fat legislation or not?
If not, then you are contradicting yourself for supporting helmet laws and seat belt laws.
If you are in favor of punishing the driver and the fat person equally then I have no problem with your consistency. What's your position?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:24 pm to lionward2014
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We, as a society and culture, have a problem with people controlling their own lives and decisions. Whether it be seat belt laws, drugs (medicinal and recreational), etc. laws that are there to "protect you from yourself" have infiltrated the American societal fabric, completely contrary to the personal autonomy devised by the founders.
Agree and disagree. As soon as someone's choices affect my bank account it is no longer a personal choice. There has to be some concessions. Putting on a seat belt or wearing a helmet is not on the same level as discussing first amendment rights. If you want to drive without a seatbelt or not wear a helmet knock yourself out. I could care less as long as you inform your insurance company you want to sign up for the low IQ group insurance policy. Problem solved, everyone wins
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:26 pm to Zach
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1. It never happens.
Every time a rock hits the windshield of my car in front of my head I think about motorcycle helmets.
I'm from a motorcycle family. Both my parents had dirt bikes and road bikes, including a Goldwing that they rode to Alaska twice. My father taught riding safety courses. I had a Kawasaki for a couple of years in the late 80s before I could afford a car. Got run off the road one time by a distracted driver, but wasn't hurt and my bike wasn't damaged, but it could have been soooo much worse. Always wore a full helmet. It's just the way I was brought up.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:32 pm to TrackDawg
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If you are in favor of punishing the driver and the fat person equally then I have no problem with your consistency. What's your position?
My position is that I misread your original position. My apologies.
Everyone should be free to do as they please as long as it does not harm anyone else and they're ready to accept the consequences for their actions.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:32 pm to TBoy
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I had a Kawasaki for a couple of years in the late 80s before I could afford a car. Got run off the road one time by a distracted driver, but wasn't hurt and my bike wasn't damaged,
I had a Honda 450 for 20 years. I rode it all the time and never had a close call with a car because I had the mindset that every car on the road was out to kill me.
When La. did not have a helmet law I wore one if I was hitting the highway. I did not wear one for traveling around town. It's all about freedom of choice.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:32 pm to lionward2014
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We, as a society and culture, have a problem with people controlling their own lives and decisions. Whether it be seat belt laws, drugs (medicinal and recreational), etc. laws that are there to "protect you from yourself" have infiltrated the American societal fabric, completely contrary to the personal autonomy devised by the founders.
Excellent point. I don't know why so many Americans are anxious to give up more and more freedom.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:33 pm to TrackDawg
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Everyone should be free to do as they please as long as it does not harm anyone else and they're ready to accept the consequences for their actions.
I'm with ya, bro.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 1:37 pm to Zach
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I had a Honda 450 for 20 years. I rode it all the time and never had a close call with a car because I had the mindset that every car on the road was out to kill me.
Good mindset. It's true. I had a 1985 Kawasaki 454. Quick bike with a belt drive, so it was kinda quiet. Smooth ride but not the best for interstate driving. It could hit 100 but the rice was starting to burn at those RPMs.
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