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re: Reason article on luxury goods and class: don't mind the gap
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I think his point hinges on the fact that the wealthy have more choices of basically equal quality products, which makes it unequal.
so the ability of poor people to have the choice to acquire luxury goods of the same basic quality as the rich speaks little to lifestyle? what?
And that makes zero sense as well.
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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yes
Done.
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so the ability of poor people to have the choice to acquire luxury goods of the same basic quality as the rich speaks little to lifestyle?
Is that what I said?
(Hint: It isn't.)
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literally
Your use of this word makes no sense.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:48 am to Scruffy
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I think his point hinges on the fact that the wealthy have more choices of basically equal quality products, which makes it unequal.
Nope.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:So he can respond with "you don't understand my points" and make himself feel superior.
so what's the point of even commenting?
Hell, I've brought this up before, but DB picks the opposite stance in nearly every thread. I believe that is on purpose though.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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so what's the point of even commenting?
Stop asking stupid questions.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:50 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Is that what I said?
(Hint: It isn't.)
this is what i quoted
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The quality of a product, or the ability or choice to obtain a specific product speaks very little to wealth and lifestyle.
yup that's what you said
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:51 am to Scruffy
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DB picks the opposite stance in nearly every thread.
This is incorrect. It appears that way, because I don't typically spend my time commenting on things just to say "Yeah, I agree with that."
Relatively speaking, I comment on a small percentage of the threads here.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:51 am to Scruffy
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So he can respond with "you don't understand my points" and make himself feel superior.
a regular Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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so the ability of poor people to have the choice to acquire luxury goods of the same basic quality as the rich speaks little to lifestyle?
..is not...
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The quality of a product, or the ability or choice to obtain a specific product speaks very little to wealth and lifestyle.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Should've just led with that.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 8:55 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:02 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Having just spent Father's Day...one of the things for which I am MOST grateful to my dad is the lesson about "wealth envy and attitude"
My father never earned "a lot of money". But, he provided a safe home, reliable vehicle transportation, all of the nutrition I need plus additional calories, TV, and Air Conditioning, and the opportunity to be involved in interracial activities like sports, etc. He taught me that after THOSE THINGS...wealth is a matter of attitude.
He inspired me to try harder to provide some of those "better quality" versions of the same things. But, never to substitute the 'appreciation' for the "perceived better quality" with the NEED for them.
Happiness has been the most consistent emotion I've felt because I understood that lesson.
Almost ALL of the products in that those categories I have now are "improvements" (even relatively). But NONE of them bring me any more happiness.
My father never earned "a lot of money". But, he provided a safe home, reliable vehicle transportation, all of the nutrition I need plus additional calories, TV, and Air Conditioning, and the opportunity to be involved in interracial activities like sports, etc. He taught me that after THOSE THINGS...wealth is a matter of attitude.
He inspired me to try harder to provide some of those "better quality" versions of the same things. But, never to substitute the 'appreciation' for the "perceived better quality" with the NEED for them.
Happiness has been the most consistent emotion I've felt because I understood that lesson.
Almost ALL of the products in that those categories I have now are "improvements" (even relatively). But NONE of them bring me any more happiness.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:07 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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BlackHelicopterPilot
Post more.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:26 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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BlackHelicopterPilot
Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:30 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
And that's the point of the whole OP.
In the past, the difference between rich and poor was often food and shelter, or no food and shelter.
Today is it is more luxurious versions of the same items.
Luxury items are certainly something that people can aspire to have, but they aren't the things revolutions are built on.
In the past, the difference between rich and poor was often food and shelter, or no food and shelter.
Today is it is more luxurious versions of the same items.
Luxury items are certainly something that people can aspire to have, but they aren't the things revolutions are built on.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:25 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Having just spent Father's Day...one of the things for which I am MOST grateful to my dad is the lesson about "wealth envy and attitude"
Same here. Did your folks ever drive you through a rich neighborhood just to admire the homes? It was an extension of 'window shopping.'
We were too poor to buy nice stuff so we walked around Main Street back in the 50s to look at the clothes in large display windows.
Similarly, dad would drive us through the richer section of town just to look at the large beautiful homes with landscaped lawns. He never displayed envy toward the rich. He wanted us to admire what they had achieved and copy their habits to make our lives better.
Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:00 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Having just spent Father's Day...one of the things for which I am MOST grateful to my dad is the lesson about "wealth envy and attitude"
Same here. The fact remains... one does not become wealthy by counting how much his neighbor has. He becomes wealthy by building his own solid foundation.
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