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re: Really want to hear from Democrats (debate)

Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 12:37 pm to
Mickey - do you believe Biden suffers from dementia?
Posted by Admiral_Dawg
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:30 pm to
He should absolutely participate in debates.

As for the second question, the same reason that you'd still vote for Trump even if he didn't debate. Politics has sadly become an ideological team sport where we pull for our own regardless of how shitty or inept the product is.
Posted by longwayfromLA
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Please give any reason why Biden shouldn't be able to participate in a debate with no audience.

If he (Democrats) refuses to debate, does that make you think about your vote?



I have no idea if Biden wants to skip debate or not and I don't care either way, but if you're looking for a rationale, it's pretty obvious.
Biden could make a purely political calculation that with Trump stepping on his own dick every couple of days, the upside of a good or neutral performance is lower than the downside of a bad one and he could further note that other than a norm, there is no mechanism to make him do this thing that every Presidential candidate does. He could conclude that when push comes to shove he won't get punished for it. It's the same calculation Trump made with hiding his taxes. And indeed if Biden does skip the debate, he'll probably use that as an excuse.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:43 pm to
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I don't care either way


Why not?
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:43 pm to
Well at least we know what the MSM will go with instead of the truth.
Posted by longwayfromLA
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:43 pm to
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Why not?


I couldn't imagine what could possibly happen in the debate that would make me change my vote. Could you?
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1993 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:45 pm to
Not be able to speak? Not know where he is at? How about those for starters?
Posted by TIGERSTORM
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:45 pm to
Fox is reporting that Biden camp has agreed to the debate but that Trump hasn't. Why is there so much talk about Biden not wanting to debate?
Posted by longwayfromLA
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:46 pm to
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Not be able to speak? Not know where he is at? How about those for starters?


So you'd change your vote if Trump was completely incoherent? Would you really?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:46 pm to
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I couldn't imagine what could possibly happen in the debate that would make me change my vote. Could you?


Of course not, short of anything completely outrageous. I still like seeing the contrasting perspective of who might be President of the country.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1993 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:47 pm to
Maybe because we know what will happen. If you think Trump won't, you are a fool like the media.
Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:47 pm to
I’ve said this before, any candidate that doesn’t debate does not have a clue.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:47 pm to
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Of course not, short of anything completely outrageous. I still like seeing the contrasting perspective of who might be President of the country.


Under other circumstance, I'd agree with you. But with these two? I dunno, let's just get it over with and see where we land.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1993 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:48 pm to
I absolutely wouldn't vote for him. I like my country though.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:48 pm to
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So you'd change your vote if Trump was completely incoherent? Would you really?


I would sit out.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1993 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:49 pm to
Bingo
Posted by RebelTheBear
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Member since Aug 2016
5963 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:49 pm to
Mickey, thank you for being a good sport throughout this thread. I have three questions for you also (and any other democratic voters on this board):

1. In your opinion, what is it about Biden's platform/policies that makes him a viable candidate?

2. Do democratic voters generally care about Biden's mental state?

3. On a scale of 1-10, how confident are you that Joe Biden will win the 2020 Presidential Election? Provide justification if you want to.

Thanks and have a wonderful day.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:50 pm to
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Please give any reason why Biden shouldn't be able to participate in a debate with no audience. If he (Democrats) refuses to debate, does that make you think about your vote?


Biden should debate. Unequivocally, I don't think there's any valid reason to be put forth why it can't happen. I also think the "skipping debates" story is largely manufactured.

That said, Trump and the RNC going virtual on the GOP convention, and even closing it to both the press and the majority of delegates, is just giving Biden and the DNC more and more wiggle room to claim logistics issues/COVID-related issues. If you can't have a handful of reporters at the convention, even just the AP and the Reuters reps, you're playing into the idea that a debate is unworkable.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53758 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:53 pm to
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A little, but not enough to actually change my vote.


In 2016 you were fully committed to a Dim candidate you knew was a criminal and in 2020 you're fully committed to a Dim candidate that is mentally deficient and unfit to be POTUS.......
Posted by ericlagman
Member since May 2020
34 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:55 pm to
If you can show me where it is required a candidate debate, it might have an impact. Oh wait, that is all I heard from pubs in the last governor’s race in Alabama. She won with 60% of the vote anyway.

But yes, I want to see at least a couple of debates. It helps that trump is not someone to fear as a debator as he also struggles with coherent thought.
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