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re: Really want to hear from Democrats (debate)

Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23058 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:56 pm to
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In 2016 you were fully committed to a Dim candidate you knew was a criminal


Negative. I did not support her or vote for her.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23172 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:56 pm to
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would assume it was a calculated decision based on his polling


Hahahahaha has

Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 2:59 pm to
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I absolutely wouldn't vote for him. I like my country though.


Trump is pretty random and all over the place a good chunk of the time. I'm my experience, his fans just excuse it. Maybe you're more principled than that.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23058 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 3:02 pm to
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Mickey, thank you for being a good sport throughout this thread.


I try

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1. In your opinion, what is it about Biden's platform/policies that makes him a viable candidate?



For me, a lot of it has to do with his views on healthcare, our standing in the world, uniting our country by representing everyone rather than only those who vote for him.

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2. Do democratic voters generally care about Biden's mental state?


I know I do. I would think most do to a degree. Most Biden supporters have serious concerns about Trump's mental state as well so that would be taken into account. I also think the dementia thing is overblown as Biden has been a gaffe machine his entire career.

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3. On a scale of 1-10, how confident are you that Joe Biden will the 2020 Presidential Election? Provide justification if you want to.



How confident that he will win? I'm at like a 4/10.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
4919 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 3:05 pm to
Mickey...seems like you are voting for Vice President...wonder why?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34896 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 3:06 pm to
not a democrat

there is no real reason not to debate

very few people are going to change their mind about voting for Biden because they aren't actually voting FOR him, they're voting against Trump

Therefore, it doesn't matter what he does leading up to the election.

He could be a stuffed animal and nothing would change.

Which is pretty much the same way Trump fans feel about their guy.

This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted by autauga
Member since Sep 2015
3654 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 3:34 pm to
Maybe Biden can get the rules changed to allow the Puppeteer to come on stage with him.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:03 pm to
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Mickey...seems like you are voting for Vice President...wonder why?


This is seems as if it's meant to be snarky, but I have no idea what you are implying of who Mickey is. What are you trying to ask me?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56458 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:05 pm to
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A little, but not enough to actually change my vote.



Nothing like voting for someone who isn't capable of handling a political debate.

This is the left.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56458 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:06 pm to
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If Biden chose not to debate (which I don't think he will- I think the debates will happen), I would assume it was a calculated decision based on his polling.


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I would assume he felt confident enough that he could win without debating and any debate would not be worth the risk.




It's definitely his best shot.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56458 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:06 pm to
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Please enlighten us as to what Trump has done to make your life more miserable since his election. We'd honestly like to know.



Mickey is gay. He'd be an outcast among the gays if he voted for Trump.

In a nutshell, that's what it is.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17882 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:12 pm to
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I also think the dementia thing is overblown as Biden has been a gaffe machine his entire career.


You honestly have little/no concern that Biden is headlong into dementia?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:25 pm to
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If Biden chose not to debate (which I don't think he will- I think the debates will happen), I would assume it was a calculated decision based on his polling. I would assume he felt confident enough that he could win without debating and any debate would not be worth the risk.



No shite. That’s not the question but a nice deflection.

Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:26 pm to
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I would assume it was a calculated decision based on his polling. I would assume he felt confident enough that he could win without debating and any debate would not be worth the risk.




Imagine a president who knows the only way to win is to hide.
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:30 pm to
What would it change? He has absolutely nothing to gain.

Really, is there anything about Trump that we don't know?

Anything that Biden or Trump could say or do that would change anyone's mind?

It's a divisive and dug in world we live in right now.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:33 pm to
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uniting our country


I do not see a message of unity from any Democrat. It is all identity politics and putting everyone into small groups.

Divide and conquer. That’s the Dem platform
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23058 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:54 pm to
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Mickey is gay. He'd be an outcast among the gays if he voted for Trump.

In a nutshell, that's what it is.



I know you want to think that's what it is, but it's not. I have maybe 2-3 close friends who are gay so I'm not worried about them not liking me. Before Trump, I always voted Republican. I've always disagreed with most gays regarding gay-related issues.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 5:20 pm to
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Please give any reason why Biden shouldn't be able to participate in a debate with no audience.

If he (Democrats) refuses to debate, does that make you think about your vote?


I suspect internal polling indicates undecided voters are a non factor in this election so there is only down side to wrestling with a hog. I don't think there are many people going to be swayed in a debate in this election because the choice is clear...more Trump or no Trump....Trump ain't winning over any more people and neither is Biden...the election may as well be held today. This ain't politics as usual....minds are made up and nothing is going to change them except a poor debate performance....why take the risk?

General Election Debates for president started in 1960 between Kennedy and Nixon....60 years ago....from 1968 until 2016 a president elect released their personal income tax returns to public scrutiny...48 years....we are seeing all sorts of relatively new "norms" fall by the wayside in presidential politics....
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 5:26 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98893 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 5:25 pm to
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If Biden chose not to debate (which I don't think he will- I think the debates will happen),


Trump could still show up and put an empty chair where Biden should have been.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1585 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 5:59 pm to
So I'm seeing that Democrats are fine with a possible dementia President who hides during an election.

Didn't they just try to criticize Trump for hiding in a bunker for riots?

You prefer a guy afraid of his shadow.
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