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Real life supply chain impacts thread - non consumer products
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:17 am
Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:17 am
Since we all see what's going on with food & consumer products here's my view of the supply chain issues from the industrial sector. Feel free to add.
I work on a massive farm with our own electrical grid (55 miles of power lines) and 9 large underground well pumping sites up to 2,000 Hp at 550 feet deep. Also have some large inverted siphon pipes crossing gulches that can get up to 1,000ft wide / 300ft deep / 48" pipe diameter.
1. Oil filled distribution transformers is the big one. I'm now seeing lead times of up to 100 weeks. These used to be 12-26 weeks. These are the pole mounted 'grey trashcan looking' units and also the typically green padmounted ones. Prices have about doubled. We're searching hard for refurbed units but looks like a lot of people are too. This is bad news for the construction industry
2. Prices overall are about 30% - 100% up on items ranging from pumps, conductors, pipe material, steel, etc. Quotes used to be valid for 30 days. Now a lot are valid for only 7 days.
3. Engineering services has noticeably declined in on-time delivery for project contributions - bids, designs, etc. There's either a backlog from covid, people got used to working at 50% level because they've been working from home, or both. Deadlines are being missed left and right. Complete loss of professionalism & drive
I work on a massive farm with our own electrical grid (55 miles of power lines) and 9 large underground well pumping sites up to 2,000 Hp at 550 feet deep. Also have some large inverted siphon pipes crossing gulches that can get up to 1,000ft wide / 300ft deep / 48" pipe diameter.
1. Oil filled distribution transformers is the big one. I'm now seeing lead times of up to 100 weeks. These used to be 12-26 weeks. These are the pole mounted 'grey trashcan looking' units and also the typically green padmounted ones. Prices have about doubled. We're searching hard for refurbed units but looks like a lot of people are too. This is bad news for the construction industry
2. Prices overall are about 30% - 100% up on items ranging from pumps, conductors, pipe material, steel, etc. Quotes used to be valid for 30 days. Now a lot are valid for only 7 days.
3. Engineering services has noticeably declined in on-time delivery for project contributions - bids, designs, etc. There's either a backlog from covid, people got used to working at 50% level because they've been working from home, or both. Deadlines are being missed left and right. Complete loss of professionalism & drive
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 2:22 am to Browncd81
Complete loss of professionalism & drive is a symptom of long covids?
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:04 am to Browncd81
I work for an electrical company. Currently it is basically impossible to get meter sockets. My boss thinks this is due to all of the apartment complexes buying them by the thousands or even hundreds of thousands but I'm not sure. We won't be able to get any until 2023. We are hurting bad.
In general the price of plastic, steel, aluminum, copper, etc. has been constantly rising and with fuel rising as well this leads to all kinds of pricing increases. And parts that used to take a month or so are now taking 3-6 or even more sometimes.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months.
In general the price of plastic, steel, aluminum, copper, etc. has been constantly rising and with fuel rising as well this leads to all kinds of pricing increases. And parts that used to take a month or so are now taking 3-6 or even more sometimes.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 3:30 am to Browncd81
Just paid $80 for a gallon of exterior Sherwin Williams paint. Mid-grade.
Premium was $92. Of course they were out of stock.
Was going to have the house painted this year. frick that.
Premium was $92. Of course they were out of stock.
Was going to have the house painted this year. frick that.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:24 am to Browncd81
quote:
Real life supply chain impacts thread - non consumer products
It is getting worse by the day in the petrochemical/heavy industrial supply chain, everything you said is spot on.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:46 am to themunch
Imagine that this still has 2-1/2 years to go of this administration but the downside will take years to correct.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 4:48 am to Strannix
It’s like most people just don’t care anymore or just gave in to the system. Sure didn’t take long for the spineless to be controlled
Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:12 am to Browncd81
I have a torn rotator cuff and get a shot in my shoulder when the pain gets bad enough.
Called my doctor yesterday to make an appointment for my shot.
They informed me that the steroid that they use on me is on national back order.
Pisses me off.
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Called my doctor yesterday to make an appointment for my shot.
They informed me that the steroid that they use on me is on national back order.
Pisses me off.
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:51 am to Nosevens
quote:
Imagine that this still has 2-1/2 years to go of this administration but the downside will take years to correct
I’m not sure the predicament this country is in can be corrected
Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:56 am to xxTIMMYxx
Bright side is no more mean tweets...
Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:58 am to Browncd81
We need to import steel and aluminum, and it's been a nightmare for the past year and a half.
1. Chinese / Japanese
2. Price of steel and aluminum
3. Freight costs
4. Lack of drivers and/or chassis to haul from ports
5. Demurrage charges (See #4)
6. Storage charges (see #4)
1. Chinese / Japanese
2. Price of steel and aluminum
3. Freight costs
4. Lack of drivers and/or chassis to haul from ports
5. Demurrage charges (See #4)
6. Storage charges (see #4)
Posted on 6/15/22 at 6:02 am to Browncd81
40 wk lead time for safety PLC cards
3 month lead time for some pump impellers
2-3 month lead time for run of the mill transmitters
2 year lead time for a Ford Bronco
3 month lead time for some pump impellers
2-3 month lead time for run of the mill transmitters
2 year lead time for a Ford Bronco
Posted on 6/15/22 at 6:10 am to jamiegla1
Drives 20-40 weeks stock pre covid
HMI 10-40 weeks stock-4 weeks pc
PLC stock - 40 weeks stock pc
Switchgear 30-72 weeks 24-30 weeks pc
Pad mount transformers 72 weeks 26-40 pc
Motors stock to infinity
I will say this, our grid is facing the toughest year to keep running. It looks like a long hot summer (heat kills electrical components) and there is a lack of repair parts out there. It could get real ugly this summer.
HMI 10-40 weeks stock-4 weeks pc
PLC stock - 40 weeks stock pc
Switchgear 30-72 weeks 24-30 weeks pc
Pad mount transformers 72 weeks 26-40 pc
Motors stock to infinity
I will say this, our grid is facing the toughest year to keep running. It looks like a long hot summer (heat kills electrical components) and there is a lack of repair parts out there. It could get real ugly this summer.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 6:20 am to Browncd81
Buddy works for the local power company. They are having to pull transformers from areas of town to use in another area.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 6:23 am to Browncd81
Networking gear:
routers/switches/access points….up to 40 weeks lead time on some of it.
routers/switches/access points….up to 40 weeks lead time on some of it.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 6:27 am to Dawgfanman
^im in IT and you are correct on that one.
It also effects how fast O&G companies could “ramp up” production or start drilling. All of those production sites have a massive IT infrastructure monitoring every possible aspect of production. So even if Brandon let them loose, it wouldn’t be instant all that equipment and much more is required.
It also effects how fast O&G companies could “ramp up” production or start drilling. All of those production sites have a massive IT infrastructure monitoring every possible aspect of production. So even if Brandon let them loose, it wouldn’t be instant all that equipment and much more is required.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 7:07 am to Browncd81
The world is beginning to resemble Atlas Shrugged
Posted on 6/15/22 at 7:28 am to Browncd81
Construction world
Concrete- we only get a specific allotment per week. Our vendor is not taking on new customers to keep up with demand
Brick and block - demand outpacing supply, at current levels we will see shortages by year end on both
Windows/Doors. Any non Home Depot/Lowes 101 door/window is anywhere from 4 to 8 months lead time. Ordered aluminum clad package in January slated to ship in August.
And just many different types of connectors/clamps/couplings that were always plentiful seem to be harder and harder to track down.
Concrete- we only get a specific allotment per week. Our vendor is not taking on new customers to keep up with demand
Brick and block - demand outpacing supply, at current levels we will see shortages by year end on both
Windows/Doors. Any non Home Depot/Lowes 101 door/window is anywhere from 4 to 8 months lead time. Ordered aluminum clad package in January slated to ship in August.
And just many different types of connectors/clamps/couplings that were always plentiful seem to be harder and harder to track down.
Posted on 6/15/22 at 7:39 am to ItNeverRains
normal concrete drainage pipe-6 months
ductile iron sewer/water pipe - 50 weeks
precast concrete -6 months
reinforcing steel 6 months
concrete batch plant 14 months
ductile iron sewer/water pipe - 50 weeks
precast concrete -6 months
reinforcing steel 6 months
concrete batch plant 14 months
Posted on 6/15/22 at 7:43 am to ItNeverRains
quote:
Construction world
Concrete- we only get a specific allotment per week. Our vendor is not taking on new customers to keep up with demand
Brick and block - demand outpacing supply, at current levels we will see shortages by year end on both
Windows/Doors. Any non Home Depot/Lowes 101 door/window is anywhere from 4 to 8 months lead time. Ordered aluminum clad package in January slated to ship in August.
And just many different types of connectors/clamps/couplings that were always plentiful seem to be harder and harder to track down
The asphalt market is tight also, having difficult time obtaining the correct aggregate for the asphalt mix.
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