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re: Reagan fired the ATC, Trump needs to fire the NHC

Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:51 am to
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:51 am to
So Boat, seriously, what the hell happened?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:03 am to
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So Boat, seriously, what the hell happened?


One wind speed was taken 10meters above the surface on land. The other was taken from 10,000 feet in the middle of the Gulf.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:07 am to
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One wind speed was taken 10meters above the surface on land. The other was taken from 10,000 feet in the middle of the Gulf.

They extrapolate the flight-level winds that they record and turn it into a ground level sustained wind. They also drop instruments into the storm to measure low-level pressure and winds. When they say 140 mph hurricane they mean 140 mph sustained winds at the surface.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:11 am to
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So Boat, seriously, what the hell happened?

It looked like the storm was decaying some upon landfall. It didn’t look as impressive as it did earlier in the day over water. It was probably 140 mph when it was over water because it looked very impressive earlier in the day. But it probably weakened leading up to landfall and they didn’t account for it. Friction plays a big part in it too. Little friction over water means faster surface winds. The land can be like hitting the brakes for the wind as it comes in off water. It’s not enough for the discrepancy but it plays some of a role.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:28 am to
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You guys are comparing measurements taken at vastly different altitudes.

Give me a f*cking break!

We are comparing the foreground and background in this image:

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Posted by Big4SALTbro
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:32 am to
Boat is Kenny Hillard here and pank is that ole miss defender he planted into the turf
Posted by dafif
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:33 am to
If you think strongest sustained was 55 you are an idiot
Posted by dafif
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:39 am to
Seidel is a tool

Best video ever
Posted by dafif
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:40 am to
Seidel is a tool

Best video ever
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:41 am to
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If you think strongest sustained was 55 you are an idiot
Did the Perry Airport lie?

Put in your terms ...



If you think Helene's doppler image, with its disorganized eye, is indicative of a 140mph / Cat 4 storm, you're an idiot.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:47 am to
I really don’t think you’re understanding the conversation.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:49 am to
Highest official recorded wind gusts

Keep in mind sustained winds will be much less than wind gusts.

Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:55 am to
So it fell apart very quickly upon landfall

How was the NHC supposed to predict it breaking down so quickly?

That has happened to storms in the past so it's not uncommon. Not all storms can hold together like Laura and still be a hurricane 180 miles in all the way to Shreveport
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:19 am to
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So it fell apart very quickly upon landfall
Yeah, all those mountains in western Florida really tore the storm apart.
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:25 am to
Something still isn't right though. 140mph SUSTAINED to 90mph GUSTS is one of the oddest things I've ever seen with hurricanes. And they missed badly on the path inland. It's possibly 150 miles off to the east.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:29 am to
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Yeah, all those mountains in western Florida really tore the storm apart.


There’s no possible way you’re actually from near the gulf coast and making that comment
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:31 am to
Don't tell the mouth breathers that

Give it time, they'll somehow blame this hurricane's "misinformation" on Hillary and/or Obama.

ThAnKs ObAmUh!! DURRR HURRR HURRRR
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:32 am to
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Something still isn't right though. 140mph SUSTAINED to 90mph GUSTS is one of the oddest things I've ever seen with hurricanes.


The 140 was taken well out over water. The 90mph reading was taken over land.
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:34 am to
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The 140 was taken well out over water. The 90mph reading was taken over land.


Facts?

**fidgets around, drops the remote controller in between the couch cushions**

"Well, ok... commie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:35 am to
Somehow….amidst all of this…..you’re the one coming off looking retarded.
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