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re: Reagan and Homelessness

Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:05 pm to
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yes I agree that Snyder was a fake and a liar, but there are in fact homeless people.


So, was it Reagan's fault?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:08 pm to
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So, was it Reagan's fault?


No, not directly. But his policies did not make spending money on homelessness a priority.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:08 pm to
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But his policies did not make spending money on homelessness a priority.


As opposed to who?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:11 pm to
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As opposed to who?


Compared to Johnson, Nixon, Ford and Carter. I'm not saying Reagan is at fault for homelessness. He didn't make people do drugs or drink or have mental health issues, but it's true that he changed polices and spending.

Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:15 pm to
But no ones policies make spending money on homelessness a priority.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:16 pm to
Homelessness really began to flourish during the 1960's with the forced contraction of state mental institutions through court mandated deinstitutionalization.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:19 pm to
This was a big part of it also Jake88.
Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:29 pm to
When we have a Republican President we have a problem an uncaring lack of actions towards a homeless problem in the nation. When we have a Democrat President there is no problem to report about unless Republicans propose budget cuts that hold aid figures in check with everything else to be considered. For eample look no farther than the last five years of the news aired on the tube.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Compared to Johnson, Nixon, Ford and Carter. I'm not saying Reagan is at fault for homelessness. He didn't make people do drugs or drink or have mental health issues, but it's true that he changed polices and spending.


According to the US conference of mayors..

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The failure of urban housing projects to provide safe, secure, and affordable housing to the poor.[21][22][23][24] Additionally, many workers cannot afford to live where they work, and even in moderately priced communities housing costs require a large portion of household income.[25]

The deinstitutionalization movement from the 1950s onwards in state mental health systems, to shift towards 'community-based' treatment of the mentally ill, as opposed to long-term commitment in institutions.[21][22][23][24] There is disproportionally higher prevalence of mental disorders relative to other disease groups within homeless patient populations at both inpatient hospitals and hospital-based emergency departments.[26]

Redevelopment and gentrification activities instituted by cities across the country through which low-income neighborhoods are declared blighted and demolished to make way for projects that generate higher property taxes and other revenue, creating a shortage of housing affordable to low-income working families, the elderly poor, and the disabled.[21][22][23][24]

The failure of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to provide effective mental health care and meaningful job training for many homeless veterans, particularly those of the Vietnam War.[27]

Deprived of normal childhoods, nearly half of foster children in the United States become homeless when they are released from foster care at age 18.[28][29]

Natural disasters that destroy homes: hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, etc. Places of employment are often destroyed too, causing unemployment and transience.[30]

People who have served time in prison, have abused drugs and alcohol, or have a history of mental illness find it difficult to impossible to find employment for years at a time because of the use of computer background checks by potential employers.[31]

According to the Institution of Housing in 2005, the U.S. Government has focused 42% more on foreign countries rather than homeless Americans, including homeless veterans.[21][22][23][24]
People who are hiding in order to evade law enforcement.[21][22][23][24]

Adults and children who flee domestic violence.[21][22][23][24]

Teenagers who flee or are thrown out by parents who disapprove of their child's sexual orientation or gender identity. A 2010 study by the Center for American Progress shows that a disproportionately high number of homeless youth (between 20–40%) identify as LGBTQ.[32]

Overly complex building code that makes it difficult for most people to build. Traditional huts, cars, and tents are illegal, classified as substandard and may be removed by government, even though the occupant may own the land. Land owner cannot live on the land cheaply, and so sells the land and becomes homeless.[21][22][23][24]

Foreclosures of homes, including foreclosure of apartment complexes which displaces tenants renting there.[33]

Evictions from rented property.[33]

Lack of support from friends or family.[21][22][23][24]

Individuals who prefer homelessness and wish to remain off the grid for political and ideological purposes. Often self-identified as Gutter Punks or Urban Survivalists. The Department of Housing and Urban Development rarely reports on this counter-cultural movement since Gutter Punks and similar individuals often refuse to participate in governmental studies and do not seek governmental assistance for ideological or political purposes.[34]
Lack of resources in place in the communities to help aid in prevention of homelessness before it becomes a crisis.[21][

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But yep, let's blame one man.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73225 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:31 pm to
Why doesn't this wench provide the statistics on what percentage of people depended on federal subsidies during the reagan era. That HUD stat is useless without proof that the number of people using housing subsidies dropped.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116783 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:32 pm to
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Homelessness really began to flourish during the 1960's with the forced contraction of state mental institutions through court mandated deinstitutionalization.

True. I recall that. But it's amazing that it was 20 years before Reagan; yet he got blamed for it.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 5:41 pm to
Urban renewal

Deinstitutionalization (Starting with the Community Mental health Act, 1963)

Real estate inflation and bubble

Community Support Program (later Center for Mental Health Services)

National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty

The ACLU

There are other factors, but these are a good start.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:22 pm to
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I personally have dealt with the homeless in Downtown JNU and every single case of long term homelessness was due to drugs/alcohol.

JNU might not be the model of the rest of western society. There problems are probably quite different than say....anywhere else.

Mental illness is definitely a factor where i live.

Drugs and alcohol are probably bigger factors, but don't doctors classify drug addiction as a mental health issue?

And honestly I don't think we can solve the homeless problem. There will always be homeless people. But we should try to minimize it, and handouts are not the way to do it.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49111 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

yes I agree that Snyder was a fake and a liar, but there are in fact homeless people.


Ok. And ?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:44 pm to
Oh Jesus fricking Christ
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11029 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:14 pm to
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rue. I recall that. But it's amazing that it was 20 years before Reagan; yet he got blamed for it.



That' the beauty of it. We can blame Reagan for it and his policies. The ends justify the means.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:19 pm to
Were you listening to Savage yesterday?
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8039 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

True. I recall that. But it's amazing that it was 20 years before Reagan; yet he got blamed for it.


it is like the gays blaming Regan for AIDS.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73225 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:43 pm to
I'm still waiting for a link showing that reliance on government housing declined during reagan. The author did not state it
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

quote:
Homelessness really began to flourish during the 1960's with the forced contraction of state mental institutions through court mandated deinstitutionalization.


True. I recall that. But it's amazing that it was 20 years before Reagan; yet he got blamed for it.



The mental institutions really began to empty after the landmark unanimous Supreme Court decision in O'Connor V. Donaldson in 1975.
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