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re: Reagan and Homelessness

Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:47 pm to
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How should it go? Do you think that was an evenhanded well reasoned assessment? Please elaborate as to your personal understanding, if so.

It was a retarded assessment because those of us that were alive then know that the bulk of the homelessness came from the emptying of the state wards housing the mentally ill. The news media was going ape shite over conditions and demanded an end to "warehousing" of the mentally ill. It ended up being forced into action and viola'...homelessness.

And of course, as someone pointed out. When Clinton got elected, homelessness was 100% cured. I mean, it MUST have been because for 8 years, I don't think you saw a single news story on the subject. It went from a daily fricking in your face grind to a non subject almost overnight.

Sort of like Gitmo now that I think about it.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:51 pm to
Absolutely. I'm old enough to remember and to have witnessed this. His policies very quickly increased the homeless.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:23 pm to
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His policies very quickly increased the homeless.

What policies of his increased the homeless? Please provide me a link showing that he kicked people off of public housing
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:38 am to
Great post.

So much wrong right now...

This isn't a country - it's a corporation...and we're just at-will employees.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 1:39 am
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 2:16 am to
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What policies of his increased the homeless? Please provide me a link showing that he kicked people off of public housin


The article does a good job of laying out the facts and policy. Got news for you dude--the Reagan years sucked. At least IMO. Of course if you weren't an adult during those times you really don't know. You don't remember the economy sucking, secret war in Central America run out of the White House basement, the Iran hostage deal, etc, etc.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 6:29 am to
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Yes Snider lied but homelessness is real. Go to a homeless shelter in Shreveport and Baton Rouge or New Orleans and tell the volunteers who feel inspired by Christianity to help the homeless that it isn't real.


If he is homeless he must be broke. How is he going to handle the life that we are getting now from the current president who is much better than Reagan?
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 6:34 am to
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You don't remember the economy sucking, secret war in Central America run out of the White House basement, the Iran hostage deal, etc, etc.


You must have forgot about the real crisis Reagan inherited from Carter. It was a lot worst than anything the current prez inherited from Bush. If you where working and I was, I was the enemy, and not one raise during the carter years. After reagan took office, after 3 years he had the economy back up and we were given raises.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 6:35 am to
I remember a homeless guy hitting up Hillary at one of her campaign stops. She gave him a voter registration card.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 7:59 am to
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I remember a homeless guy hitting up Hillary at one of her campaign stops. She gave him a voter registration card.


At least he wasn't run over by her motorcade.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26640 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 8:01 am to
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In 2008, an estimated 2.3 to 3.5 million people will be homeless for some part of the year - & the numbers have been growing.


Gee, I wonder why that is. Oh, and who has been President since 2008?

BTW, there are NOT 2.3 million homeless people in this country. There are way too many but nowhere close to that 'estimated' number. A study done a few years ago debunked that myth. I'll try to find it and provide a link.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 8:02 am to
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Got news for you dude--the Reagan years sucked. At least IMO. Of course if you weren't an adult during those times you really don't know. You don't remember the economy sucking


i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're not completely biased at all
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 8:23 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 8:27 am to
While I'm all for a good Reagan pile-on, I don't think he shoulders all the blame for the increase in homelessness in the 80's. The ACLU's push in the 70's for mental patients' rights forced many mentally ill folks out of the state-run mental institutions. Things done during Reagan's term certainly did nothing to help the situation, but the table was already set for there to be a crisis before he was even elected.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 8:55 am to
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This isn't a country - it's a corporation...and we're just at-will employees.


An at-will employee can quit without paying severance to the employer

So what I'm gathering here is that the faction on the board that gets pissed off with the hero worship and takes an alternate view is nit picking, but that really he inherited the problem and didn't do anything to make it better, and that some of the policies really didn't help.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that he ended the cold war and pulled us out of an economic funk, and is arguably one of the top four leaders we had in the 20th century.

Did he have his challenges? Yes, he increased spending like a mofo. Yes, homelessness didn't get better. That said, for the majority of americans in the country at the time his policies had a positive impact.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:07 am to
This also applies to homelessness:



Politicians can only create magic for so long. Eventually nature says f u.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:25 am to
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He didn't make people do drugs or drink or have mental health issues, but it's true that he changed polices and spending

I'm pretty sure that between the Cold War and double digit inflation there was not a lot to go around.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 3:46 pm to
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Reagan and Homelessness
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You don't remember the economy sucking, secret war in Central America run out of the White House basement, the Iran hostage deal, etc, etc.


You must have forgot about the real crisis Reagan inherited from Carter. It was a lot worst than anything the current prez inherited from Bush. If you where working and I was, I was the enemy, and not one raise during the carter years. After reagan took office, after 3 years he had the economy back up and we were given raises.


Yeah right...revisionist history on Reagan and the economy. Glad you got a raise because I sure didn't. Trucking and oil and gas industry suffered big time under Reagan. There was a redirection of money via his policies. Those arms for Iran hostages and the undeclared "war" in Central America didn't come cheap.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 3:49 pm to
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're not completely biased at all


I am biased-he sucked as a President and I'm still not sure who was running the country during his second term since he was impaired.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 4:16 pm to
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Reagan Created "The Homeless

Stopped reading at that horseshite.

Only a blithering idiot would believe it. Those of us who alive back then know it is a crock.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45123 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 7:25 pm to
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How Reagan Created "The Homeless,"


Wait are we back to blaming Reagan? You people need to send out a memo on this blame game shite. I thought everything was still Bush's fault.
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