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READ: Trump indictment and statement of facts
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:14 pm
quote:Comments, discussion, poli board lawyers?
Trump-Indictment.pdf
Statement of Facts.pdf
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:18 pm to cajunangelle
34 counts of breaking the same law?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:21 pm to cajunangelle
An admitted perjurer is their case? Come on. Also 34 counts for, supposedly, breaking one law is absurd. frick the government.
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:25 pm to MFn GIMP
it is insane. i hope tucker has dersh on
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:26 pm to cajunangelle
The Statement of Facts was a little "better" than I thought it would be.
Its still a flimsy case and I do not claim to be a criminal law expert of the state of new york...
But there is a lot in there that can do some damage to Trump in my opinion. A lot of those details getting out to the public is probably the design. Some of them look pretty bad. Trying to be totally objective here.
Its still a flimsy case and I do not claim to be a criminal law expert of the state of new york...
But there is a lot in there that can do some damage to Trump in my opinion. A lot of those details getting out to the public is probably the design. Some of them look pretty bad. Trying to be totally objective here.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:30 pm to Fun Bunch
I may be mixing my timeline here but didn't we pretty much all know about the Stormy Stuff and Grab em by the 
stuff before the election anyway.....
He should sue Cohen for doing sucky arse concealing work to begin with.
stuff before the election anyway..... He should sue Cohen for doing sucky arse concealing work to begin with.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:33 pm to Fun Bunch
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The Statement of Facts was a little "better" than I thought it would be.
really? Were you expecting the recipe for making a ham sandwich? quote:like what? What a dumb statement with no elaborations….
But there is a lot in there that can do some damage to Trump in my opinion
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Trying to be totally objective here
okay
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:35 pm to cajunangelle
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34 counts of breaking the same law?
Par for the course. Some is for negotiating, some is for adding "weight" to the docket and some is to justify $300/hr
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:36 pm to cajunangelle
My favorite part so far:
- National Enquirer bought the story of a doorman who was claiming that Trump had a secret lovechild.
- They then determined that dude was LYING.
- This DA has his panties in a twist because the National Enquirer *didn't publish a made up story* because it would have made the orange man look bad.
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11. When AMI later concluded that the story was not true, the AMI CEO wanted to
release the Doorman from the agreement.
- National Enquirer bought the story of a doorman who was claiming that Trump had a secret lovechild.
- They then determined that dude was LYING.
- This DA has his panties in a twist because the National Enquirer *didn't publish a made up story* because it would have made the orange man look bad.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:38 pm to Fun Bunch
The porn star story died and she admitted she never had sex with him as well as Cohen conning her from the money he took from Trump to pay her off.
The playboy bunny doorman story was dumb. Let's say it is all true. Who cares? It is done every day in DC and politico candidates running. The monies came from his private accounts anyway, so it is moot and past the statute of limitations, no?
The playboy bunny doorman story was dumb. Let's say it is all true. Who cares? It is done every day in DC and politico candidates running. The monies came from his private accounts anyway, so it is moot and past the statute of limitations, no?
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“Not guilty,” Trump said from his seat to Judge Juan Merchan during the hearing in Manhattan Supreme Court.
The indictment says those payments were intended to suppress the claims by the women, porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal, claims that they had sex with Trump, in a bid to keep their stories from affecting Trump’s chances against Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.
Follow CNBC.com’s live coverage of former President Donald Trump’s surrender and arraignment at the Manhattan criminal courthouse.
Prosecutors also said a Trump-friendly publishing company, American Media Inc.., had paid $30,000 to a former Trump Tower doorman who claimed to have a story about Trump fathering a child out of wedlock.
All three payments were part of an alleged “catch and kill” scheme by Trump and others, among them then-AMI chief David Pecker, from August 2015 to December 2017 “to identify, purchase, and bury negative information about him and boost his electoral prospects,” prosecutors said.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg at a press conference said each of the false statements in business records, which related to the payment to Daniels, were done to cover up other crimes related to the 2016 election.
Those crimes included violations of New York state election law, and false statements to tax authorities, he said.
LINK
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:38 pm to IT_Dawg
No conspiracy charge and no underlying crime laid out, just the idea that it was the justification. All checks (that is what all 34 counts are) were issued by the trust when Trump was not in control and more interesting not ever in NY when they were issued...
If there is no conspiracy, how can he commit the crime in NY and if he is not in control of the trust, with no conspiracy how was it done?
This is very meh to me
If there is no conspiracy, how can he commit the crime in NY and if he is not in control of the trust, with no conspiracy how was it done?
This is very meh to me
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:39 pm to Fun Bunch
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But there is a lot in there that can do some damage to Trump in my opinion. A lot of those details getting out to the public is probably the design. Some of them look pretty bad. Trying to be totally objective here.
Like what?
The man has had an anal probe by the dnc and government since 2016. We know Trump. All of this makes him stronger.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:46 pm to Lightning
quote:Wasn't Karen McDougal one of the ones that it came out Hillary paid $500K to, to lie about Trump? Or the one who said she asked Trump to her room?
The indictment says those payments were intended to suppress the claims by the women, porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal,
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:47 pm to cajunangelle
they got him now! 
They never learn
They never learn
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:53 pm to MFn GIMP
an admitted by his own lawyer perjurer is their star witness.
and honest to Pete it looks like some lawfare blogger bluehaired 30 year old-dippy doo wadded ditz... just wrote out the charges and said to herself... hey, I will repeat the same thing 33 more times that will get him. like totally yaaaaay! let me text Hill.
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and then had the audacity to leak sealed GJ testimony. OMB 34 times.
and honest to Pete it looks like some lawfare blogger bluehaired 30 year old-dippy doo wadded ditz... just wrote out the charges and said to herself... hey, I will repeat the same thing 33 more times that will get him. like totally yaaaaay! let me text Hill.
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and then had the audacity to leak sealed GJ testimony. OMB 34 times.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:54 pm to cajunangelle
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34 counts of breaking the same law?
He paid off 34 porn stars? Or paid off one porn star 34 times?
Posted on 4/4/23 at 3:55 pm to rmnldr
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Wasn't Karen McDougal one of the ones that it came out Hillary paid $500K to, to lie about Trump? Or the one who said she asked Trump to her room?
She was smoking hot !
Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:00 pm to IT_Dawg
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okay
I’ve been incredibly objective on this. Ive said time and time again I thought this was all bullshite.
I still think that. This case should be dismissed. It’s flawed on its face. It’s at best past the SoL and really there’s no crime.
What I meant by “better” is that what this is really about is making Trump look bad. There are a lot of sleazy details laid out that don’t look good.
But they aren’t crimes. Bragg should be ashamed.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:05 pm to Ted Clubberlang
quote:Arrest Susie & Hillary!
Who Is Susie Tompkins Buell? Clinton Donor Gave $500,000 to Fund Trump Sexual Misconduct Accusers
Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:06 pm to cajunangelle
So .....are they just going to have the jury of dems issue their Verdict right away, or do they want to draw this out and make some publicity?
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