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re: Read this bullshite piece on why Late Night Talk Shows are dying
Posted on 10/10/22 at 8:57 am to Mr Boyles
Posted on 10/10/22 at 8:57 am to Mr Boyles
I haven't watched it since Letterman got into politics. How long ago was that? But even then, I didn't watch it consistently because I got up early to do gym before work.
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:21 am to Mr Boyles
I won’t opt in to watch propaganda.
The End
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:23 am to Mr Boyles
Cutting off your peepee is not funny
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:44 am to Mr Boyles
How's about these folks are just plain stupid?
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:44 am to Mr Boyles
People under 30 straight up don’t watch tv. Some might watch live sports (and that’s a far smaller percentage than previous generations), but they stream all of their entertainment. A lot of them don’t give a shite about music or movies either. For them, it’s all about video games, podcasts, twitch streamers (usually videogame related content), short form video (tik toks), and youtubers. The youtuber and the podcast has replaced the late night talk show.
Late night talk shows are expensive to make, however, they often operated as a loss leader for tv networks because they served a vital purpose of cross promoting content across different branches of the same company. So, an actor in a Disney movie would go on ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel and promote their movie while the musical guest is one signed to a label also owned by ABC. However, if key demographics that drive sales aren’t watching, then the late night show isn’t helpful for cross promotion. It’s just an expensive production with a shrinking audience.
Folks under 30 don’t care about the celebrities that late night shows air. If they did, they’d just watch the short clips edited down in tiktoks. The reality is that these consumers are completely different from previous generations, and zoomers are even more so. Conventional media hasn’t figured out yet how to effectively market to and capitalize on them via their rapidly anachronistic distribution model.
The late night show lost its relevancy with all other demos by prioritizing propaganda over entertainment to such an extent, that it was no longer subtle or entertaining. People were willing to subject themselves to a little propaganda so long as it was subtle, and the programming was still funny. These programs simply went too hard in the paint focusing exclusively on Trump for so long that audiences got bored and turned them off. So, they failed to capture the new demo AND turned away their legacy customers. Can’t imagine what that must have done to ratings…
Late night talk shows are expensive to make, however, they often operated as a loss leader for tv networks because they served a vital purpose of cross promoting content across different branches of the same company. So, an actor in a Disney movie would go on ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel and promote their movie while the musical guest is one signed to a label also owned by ABC. However, if key demographics that drive sales aren’t watching, then the late night show isn’t helpful for cross promotion. It’s just an expensive production with a shrinking audience.
Folks under 30 don’t care about the celebrities that late night shows air. If they did, they’d just watch the short clips edited down in tiktoks. The reality is that these consumers are completely different from previous generations, and zoomers are even more so. Conventional media hasn’t figured out yet how to effectively market to and capitalize on them via their rapidly anachronistic distribution model.
The late night show lost its relevancy with all other demos by prioritizing propaganda over entertainment to such an extent, that it was no longer subtle or entertaining. People were willing to subject themselves to a little propaganda so long as it was subtle, and the programming was still funny. These programs simply went too hard in the paint focusing exclusively on Trump for so long that audiences got bored and turned them off. So, they failed to capture the new demo AND turned away their legacy customers. Can’t imagine what that must have done to ratings…
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:24 am to Mr Boyles
They're not funny anymore. However, streaming has killed the late night shows. Most people lay in bed and watch an episode or two of whatever show or documentary they're currently into. The same ratings decline can be seen for most primetime sitcoms as well. Not too many people planning their weeknights around when their shows come on anymore.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:31 am to Kafka
All of the Monkees except for Mickey Dolenz are dead. 
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:14 am to shinerfan
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:27 am to SlidellCajun
Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:42 am to Diamondawg
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:45 am to OMLandshark
Then there was the Kentucky Derby winner watching restricted Super Bowl footage while wearing a mink Snuggie.
Conan and company basically said “frick it” and had fun with doing bits that either did bite the hand or make it appear as such.
This included inviting Adam Sandler on to talk about his dismissal from SNL and his agent telling him NBC stood for “Nothing But Cocksuckers.”
Conan and company basically said “frick it” and had fun with doing bits that either did bite the hand or make it appear as such.
This included inviting Adam Sandler on to talk about his dismissal from SNL and his agent telling him NBC stood for “Nothing But Cocksuckers.”
Posted on 10/10/22 at 1:43 pm to teke184
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:28 pm to Mr Boyles
Jeez. Why are so many people so eager to see conspiracies and agendas in every damn thing?
40 years ago, Carson could gather 15 million viewers because there was very little competition in his time slot and “live” TV was pretty much your only option.
Have the shows become partisan and stupid? Absolutely.
Is that why the audience is fragmented and has literally unlimited options? No.
Good lord, people. You look like idiots when you deny the effects of streaming. You come across as exactly the out-of-touch dinosaurs the left paints the right as.
40 years ago, Carson could gather 15 million viewers because there was very little competition in his time slot and “live” TV was pretty much your only option.
Have the shows become partisan and stupid? Absolutely.
Is that why the audience is fragmented and has literally unlimited options? No.
Good lord, people. You look like idiots when you deny the effects of streaming. You come across as exactly the out-of-touch dinosaurs the left paints the right as.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:30 pm to Ag Zwin
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You look like idiots when you deny the effects of streaming.
You could say the exact same thing for denying the effects of the late night shows going extreme partisan
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:44 pm to Mr Boyles
It’s been going downhill since Conan left Late Night.
Posted on 10/10/22 at 2:54 pm to jchamil
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You could say the exact same thing for denying the effects of the late night shows going extreme partisan
Show me where I did that.
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