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Ragin' Cajun: Either get on team America for the liberation of a brutalized people or STFU

Posted on 3/5/26 at 8:28 am
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 3/5/26 at 8:28 am


I am not a jingoist by any stretch of the word. Moreover, my daughter is on the USS Lincoln as we speak. I have skin in this game.

I have read (and heard) a lot of BS about whether or not we should be in Iran.

Let me be clear... I've been a SME on Iran for 25÷ years. I speak Persian Farsi, Dari, Balochi, and Tajik. I've been to Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and yes... Iran. There are few who know Iran as "intimately" as I do.

The reasons for this war are nuanced and complicated, but one thing is clear as day... the Iranian people (by and large) are good people and they just want to have the same liberty and freedom we have. Their women and girls want to be able to go out into public without having to fear if they'll be arrested and beaten (or even killed) by the "Virtue Police".

If you cannot see that, and you cannot support the liberation of a people that have been brutally oppressed for 47+ years... then you have no humanity and you and I are not the same.

Our past with Iran is not a good one (Operation Ajax or Iran Contra)... but a vast majority of the Iranians (and Americans) today have no idea why the relationship between our two countries soured in the first place. A vast majority of Iranians have only ever known abject tyranny and Islamic brutally... they love America.

I will not debate this with anyone.

Either get on team America and support the liberation of a brutalized people... or STFU and continue to wallow in your miserable hypocrisy and enjoy freedom you never had to earn or fight for.

God Bless America.

God Bless our Men and Women in Uniform.

I said what I said.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17669 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 8:48 am to
I mean I get it, yall are excited about yalls win last night, but please calm down.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23381 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 8:52 am to
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If you cannot see that, and you cannot support the liberation of a people that have been brutally oppressed for 47+ years... then you have no humanity and you and I are not the same.

So if I don't support the liberation of oppressed people in Asia, the Middle East or Africa via American war I have no humanity?

How about being generally in favor of all of them having self determination without supporting American wars to achieve it? You know, like Jesus suggested in the new testament?

He didn't tell the Jews to rise up and fight the Romans because their kingdom wasnt on earth and he certainly never told us we needed to go full neocon today.

quote:

Either get on team America and support the liberation of a brutalized people... or STFU and continue to wallow in your miserable hypocrisy and enjoy freedom you never had to earn or fight for.

This is not the argument of an intelligent and reasonable person regardless of their knowledge of Iran.
This post was edited on 3/5/26 at 8:55 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23240 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:09 am to
This started a very long time ago. But let's look at the past decade.

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Over the past decade, Iran and its network of proxies have conducted strikes against a remarkably consistent set of targets: Israel, which was struck directly by Iranian ballistic missiles in Operation True Promise in April and October of 2024; Saudi Arabia, whose oil infrastructure at Abqaiq was devastated in the 2019 Houthi drone strikes—one of the most significant attacks on the global energy supply in modern history; the United Arab Emirates, struck by Houthi drones in January 2022 in Abu Dhabi; Bahrain, subject to sustained Iranian influence operations and support for armed opposition movements seeking to destabilize the Sunni monarchy; and Qatar, which has maintained its own working relationship with Tehran, but also hosts a major U.S. military base.

Look at those countries again: Israel. Saudi Arabia. UAE. Bahrain. Qatar.

Now look at where America parks its military: Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar—CENTCOM’s forward headquarters, home to roughly 10,000 U.S. troops; Al Dhafra Air Base in the UAE—a hub for American air power and surveillance across the Gulf; Naval Support Activity Bahrain—headquarters of the U.S. Fifth Fleet; Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia; and a deep, decades-long military partnership with Israel that includes pre-positioned American equipment and intelligence infrastructure.

Iran has spent over 40 years targeting the architecture of American military presence in the Middle East. The Quincy Institute has spent six years targeting the intellectual infrastructure that justifies it. Different instruments—one fires missiles, the other publishes white papers—but an identical target set.


Morons are always Moronic, don't ya think?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28173 posts
Posted on 3/5/26 at 9:13 am to
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Either get on team America and support the liberation of a brutalized people... or STFU and continue to wallow in your miserable hypocrisy and enjoy freedom you never had to earn or fight for.


That sounds totally rational.

And I don't have a problem with the war/conflict/kinetic action.
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