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re: RACISM: The fact that black doctors don't have to meet the same high standards as white
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:13 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 1/31/26 at 1:13 pm to 4cubbies
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assuming every single other thing about each of their applications was identical, s/he shouldn’t.
Then what is your beef?
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A non-traditional graduate student who lives off-campus and has an extremely rich and BUSY life outside of my graduate program. You portray me as a 25 year old hanging out on campus philosophizing about the patriarchy or white supremacy when I’m not in class.
Literally nothing I said has anything to do with any of that. And, we've already had this conversation before.
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post evidence of me alluding to intersectionality in this thread.
Like I said, let's not assume anything. That's why I asked the question.
Now that you've answered it with a "Who, me?" response, I have ask follow up questions. Because you're clearly bothered by some aspect of this and you have called people hypocrites who object to DEI admissions policies, and the only way I can conceptualize how they could possibly be hypocrites is if you do hold that worldview.
So I need you to explain in order to avoid making assumptions or inferring something you didn't mean to convey.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 2:53 pm to wackatimesthree
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Then what is your beef?
My beef, which i posted on the first page, is that the OP misrepresented the information in the tweet. I went on and on about this. How getting accepted to medical school is not equivalent to practicing medicine or being a physician.
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Literally nothing I said has anything to do with any of that. And, we've already had this conversation before.
Yet you continue to present me that way.
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So I need you to explain in order to avoid making assumptions or inferring something you didn't mean to convey.
The whole “intersectionality” framework is dumb because it’s so glaringly obvious that we don’t need a whole framework to describe that a woman can also be a woman and a mother. Or a woman and a mother and an athlete. Or a woman and a mother and a quadriplegic. A man can also be a man and a husband. And a business owner. Or a school bus driver. And everyone’s respective experiences shape their worldviews.
People understood this before an academic invented the term “intersectionality.”
Do you disagree with that?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:04 pm to 4cubbies
quote:I don't think there is an excuse for pursuing an actuarial demo which will predictably leave our patient population in the lurch. Do you?
Not necessarily. Earlier in this comment, you posted this: Our goal should be to produce the best healthcare system quality for patients -- i.e., accessibility, cost, choice, outcome. Insofar as patient trust, care-seeking, and therapeutic compliance might have a gender or ethnic basis, workplace diversity can be contributional, and thus a consideration.
Do we want the best and brightest doctors or doctors that will practice longest?
I'm teasing you a bit.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:50 pm to 4cubbies
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Studies also show that women do the lions share of household chores and child rearing.
By how much?
Tell 'em what the gap is. (Hint, it's a lot smaller than the 6 point gap you've ridiculed on the MCAT).
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:50 pm to 4cubbies
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Yet you continue to present me that way.
How does that even logically follow?
All the crap you posted HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I POSTED.
How can I be "presenting you that way" when the dots you are trying to connect are unconnectable non sequiturs?
"Wacka, you're obviously a conservative because you interpret issues posted on the board as a conservative would."
"I'm not some minor league baseball player who is 19 years old. You need to stop presenting me that way."
You just pulled all of tha stuff you said out of your arse.
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My beef, which i posted on the first page, is that the OP misrepresented the information in the tweet.
Then how does that make someone a hypocrite?
Also, this is what you said on the first page:
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tweet indicates nothing about practicing medicine, only medical school admittance.
Do everyone favor and explain how someone is going to be practicing medicine without being admitted to medical school.
Then you responded to this:
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Never had a reason to doubt prior to DEI efforts. It’s created inherent distrust and I’ve seen it in action. It’s very unfair and likely illegal in many cases.
With this:
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I don’t doubt that most people in your life dedicate brain space to suspecting every black person they encounter is unqualified for whatever they are doing.
What does that have to do with the OP supposedly (but not really) "misrepresenting the tweet?"
Then you said THIS without any justification at all:
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Mediocre white men are terrified of having to compete with minorities.
And this, which is a blatant mischaracterization of what the guy said (which is your bread & butter here):
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This is the man who thinks other people are unqualified for jobs because they have black and brown skin.
Then you said this:
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My husband just got home from the airport. He somehow managed to beat all the odds and achieve success as a white man in America. Truly remarkable.
And finally...
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It’s not lost on me that many of the loudest critics of “special treatment” ITT are pro-Trump, despite the fact that Trump’s entire life is a case study in unearned advantage. Being born into extreme wealth, elite access, and social insulation is apparently not disqualifying. But the moment a Black medical school applicant is admitted with an MCAT score six points lower than a white peer, we clutch our pearls and demand justifications, accountability, and even lawsuits.
Now how could anyone suspect you of having a collectivist, intersectional mindset with you making innocuous comments like that?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:52 pm to 4cubbies
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The whole “intersectionality” framework is dumb because...
Do you disagree with that?
I think it's dumb because it's a collectivist philosophy.
For the same reason I think it's dumb when you post stuff like, "Men start wars."
No offense...the purpose of that wasn't to insult you.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:59 pm to 4cubbies
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I’ve argued this entire thread that high MCAT scores don’t automatically correlate with clinical competency or better patient outcomes.
No one said they did. (No, they didn't).
Here's a list of things you're ignoring about it, though:
1. In order to be a doctor you first have to be admitted medical school.
2. Your score on the MCAT isn't dispositive of your career, but it is a minimum baseline requirement to have a career. And if you don't meet the baseline, minimum requirement, your other strengths don't matter. I can have superb reflexes, leadership ability, and ability to think under pressure, but if my eyesight is 20/200 (or anything worse than 20/20), I'm not going to be a fighter pilot. And that's the way it should be. Especially when we're talking about a profession in which someone's life is literally going to be in your hands.
3. The admissions DEI policies are only what we know about from this thread, but it's a safe bet that if baseline admissions is handled this way, other aspects of your training such as assignment of internships and residency, is too. All the way up to hiring and promotions policies and practices.
This post was edited on 1/31/26 at 10:05 pm
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