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re: Question for those that have traveled/lived in Europe:

Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:08 am to
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If you can cook, you can eat better here than anywhere.


We heard you the first time, Roger. That’s not what we’re talking about.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:10 am to
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We heard you the first time, Roger. That’s not what we’re talking about.


Do you eat out every day?

No, Europe doesnt have better food. Americans just make poor choices.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59086 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:11 am to
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Do you eat out every day?


No.

quote:

No, Europe doesnt have better food. Americans just make poor choices.


I disagree with the first sentence.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
45381 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:13 am to
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The best thing though is the price of wine. It’s so goddamn cheap because they think it essential to a meal and life in general and don’t crazy mark it up.


Some of the best wine I’ve ever had was in a restaurant in Rome. I asked if I could buy a bottle to take back to the US, how much. Waiter said I’ll see. He came back, said yes, $8. I bought 8 bottles and stuffed them in the luggage for home.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:16 am to
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You can buy European wine here in the states you know.


Not really.

Usually the good cheap stuff is hard to find because the Italians etc keep it for themselves domestically. Only a little gets out along with the really expensive stuff which of course they export a lot.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2128 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:16 am to
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Americans just make poor choices.


The point of this thread is that if you cant cook for yourself every single meal, your available choices are nothing but poor ones
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:18 am to
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You can buy European wine here in the states you know.


Once it’s bottled to be shipped it’s loaded with sulfites. The local family wine at restaurants in most of Europe won’t have that in it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261685 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:19 am to
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your available choices are nothing but poor ones


Not true at all.

Y'all just choose poorly. I can find three restaurants with fresh & healthy ingredients within 5 minutes of me. One is literally next door.

We do have a bunch of crappy ones, but you absolutely can find fresh meals
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 9:22 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
2128 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:21 am to
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Some of the best wine I’ve ever had was in a restaurant in Rome. I asked if I could buy a bottle to take back to the US, how much. Waiter said I’ll see. He came back, said yes, $8. I bought 8 bottles and stuffed them in the luggage for home.


A funny sidenote...someone once brought my dad some craft Austrian chocolate and it was so good that hes been trying to get some of it for years. I found a little shop in Vienna that had it and pretty much cleaned them out. I then had to haul around a big arse bag full of $150 worth of chocolate bars when flying home
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59086 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:22 am to
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Once it’s bottled to be shipped it’s loaded with sulfites. The local family wine at restaurants in most of Europe won’t have that in it.


I don’t know about local family wine (I suspect that’s not as widespread as you think it is), but European wines in Europe typically have the same sulfite levels as American wines.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59086 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:24 am to
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Not really.

Usually the good cheap stuff is hard to find because the Italians etc keep it for themselves domestically. Only a little gets out along with the really expensive stuff which of course they export a lot.


Yes, yes you really can. Europe includes more countries than Italy.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5439 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:49 am to
As much as I love America and wouldn’t trade places with anyone in the world, Americans are a gluttonous people. Majority are overweight and sedentary and being kept alive with diabetes, blood pressure and other medicines directly related to them being overweight.

I’ve been in the life and health insurance business for 30 years and minimum 50% of my applicants are denied life insurance or have their premiums rated up or moved to an alternative company who specializes in high risk cases, primarily due to height-weight guidelines and/or the diseases associated with being overweight. I can usually tell by looking at them what category they’re going to fall in.

I’ve been to six European countries - including Russia, Sweden, Denmark, Estonia and two in the UK - and as a rule people at least look fitter and healthier than Americans. First, their “food culture” seems healthier in terms of portions and eating less processed garbage. Also, I’ve read that many artificial ingredients in American foods are not allowed in Europe. I understand we value freedom to make our own choices in America, even ones that will kill us, so I’m not necessarily arguing for a European, socialist style answer to control people’s choices. Just making observations.

As for me I try to shop on the outside aisles of the grocery store where the produce, meat and more natural foods are located. I rarely eat fast food.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261685 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:52 am to
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Americans are a gluttonous people. Majority are overweight and sedentary


Indeed.

We continually make poor choices.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15792 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:58 am to
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Meat? Fruit? Definitely not.


We found the opposite. We were in a lot of Germanic countries and Poland. The quality of meat and produce was great.

The EU’s food standards are much better than the US. In the EU, an additive has to be proven safe to consume before it can be used. Here, it has to be proven unsafe to not use it. Backwards logic.
Posted by tigerfam2000
Member since Dec 2022
27 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:07 am to
My wife and I just spent two weeks in 5 different cities in Spain. I cant say I wasn’t as hungry or ate less, but it was definitely nice being able to walk everywhere. We averaged about 8 miles a day.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82272 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:10 am to
I always eat a ton in Europe and Asia because I walk about 15 miles per day.

Are yall a bit overweight? If so maybe it's because you stick out more overseas bc there aren't nearly as many fatty Arbuckles there as in the US.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261685 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:12 am to
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definitely nice being able to walk everywhere. We averaged about 8 miles a day


Yep, our sedentary lifestyle is the biggest issue. Europe is catching up, most European nations have a 20% + obesity rate.

Africa is where the thin people are.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15868 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:14 am to
I lose 20 pounds on every trip to the UK. The food is really disgusting.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5439 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:17 am to
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I lose 20 pounds on every trip to the UK. The food is really disgusting.


You don’t like baked beans for breakfast and haggis?
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15868 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:34 am to
You don't like baked beans for breakfast and haggis?

One sight of the blood pudding turned my stomach
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