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re: Question for CDC, but doctors are welcome to answer.

Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42038 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:18 pm to
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Damn they must have been really pumping out ivermectin Mar 2020 - Oct2020 while the rest of the world burned down and then quit using it. Or maybe there's an alternative explanation.


I give you the W.H.O.
Posted by LaneRat
Member since May 2013
48 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:21 pm to
>Or maybe there's an alternative explanation.

Can't help you there sport.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3424 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:21 pm to
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Because Narcan works and ivermectin doesn’t.


Can you explain to me why the virus only spreads when I am not sitting down to eat.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32327 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:23 pm to
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Fwiw I also think remdesivir does basically jack shite- it's an expensive placebo.



Of course you do. Now put your third mask back on
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14551 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:32 pm to
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it doesn't work


It works if you take it prophylactically, or early in the disease, and it works by blocking the virus getting into the nucleus of the cell and replicating... you braindead dolt. If you take it late the replication has already started. You are a paid shill without a doubt. You claim to have made it through med school... you can not just be this organically dumb. It has to be purposeful misinformation.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26290 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:37 pm to
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Giving it to multiple patients at various stages of illness with no improvement.

No reputable studies demonstrating efficacy.

If the studies that existed were remotely accurate, I would have seen it work.


Bald faced lie.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135539 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:41 pm to
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But, can you name your source or qualifying credentials for those who will take it anyway?

Aside from my medical license?

To be crystal clear though, I'm not advocating horsepaste consumption at all. I have no idea, aside from 1.87% Ivermectin, what else is in the "paste" carrier, or whether it's fit for human consumption. Tiguar could probably better speak to that.

Regardless, it's a one-off dose. It does have antiviral properties. In appropriate doses, it has a benign risk profile. I cannot understand why, in lieu of other early interventions, there is opposition to Ivermectin.

The concept of humans having to resort to vet supplies d/t to political bureaucratic interference in their care is disgusting.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14551 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:41 pm to
BTW, Front Line Crictal Care Doctors Alliance site says for prevention it 0.2mg per Kg of body weight weekly. A kg is your weight divided by 2.2

So your weight divided by 2.2 times 0.2...

Treatment is 0.4mg per kg. I cannot prescribe and don't intend to, so look up the FLCCDA protocols online. Therein lies your answers to the whole protocol.
However, to work, it must be taken proactively or early in the disease to stop replication.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30944 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Because Narcan works and ivermectin doesn’t.


My question is why are they forcing people with legitimate problems and legit prescriptions to buy it at $130+ while giving it to those using drugs illegally? Guess who's OD'ing? It's not normal working people that are under pain management by a trained professional and have never misused or abused their meds. It's the dumbasses that use it recreationally and/or actually obtain some from known pill mills.

And guess who owns Narcan? Figure that out and it'll tell you why the gov't is spending so damn much on it and forcing people to buy it.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14254 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:44 pm to
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CDC doesn't provide the correct dosage of heroine either

True!
But not only do they provide the correct dosage of anti-opioids, they also approved their use and wholesale distribution for those who MIGHT overdose on heroin.

They also cannot provide an advisory safe dose of H, because H is not regulated or controlled by a government agency like veterinary I.

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Your doctor can provide you a human designed dose of ivermectin if y'all decide that's the best treatment for you.

Can he really prescribe Ivermectin for the WuFlu without endangering his medical license??? It would appear that the State of Louisiana, the AMA, and the CDC, not to mention the MSM are extremely antagonistic towards this to say the least!

I’m not promoting Ivermectin. I have no clue if one should use it. But I am aware that politics is probably getting in the way of good medicine and unbiased journalism.

And some, perhaps me or mine, might be desperate enough in the future to attempt it. Just as some are desperate enough to take H, some will rightfully or have been fear mongered enough into Ivermectin desperation.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14551 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:44 pm to
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Bald faced lie


Exactly...
If this Tiguar idiot hates Ivermectin as he obviously does, why in the hell would he even prescribe it.. For funzies? He is a liar and a shill. I don't belive that he is an actual physician either. He does not have the vocabulary.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30944 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39991 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:49 pm to
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of Louisiana,


I have friends who own a pharmacy and told me that they’re filling it. A lot of it. Every day.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30944 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:49 pm to
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If this Tiguar idiot hates Ivermectin as he obviously does, why in the hell would he even prescribe it.. For funzies? He is a liar and a shill. I don't belive that he is an actual physician either. He does not have the vocabulary.


Pretty sure he don't prescribe it and is not a physician. I believe he is a clinical pharmacist.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39991 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:49 pm to
Tiguar is a pharmacist iirc.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39991 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:51 pm to
Cousin had bad symptoms with her covid dx .. joint pain, fever, felt worse she said that she ever had before. Went to her hcp and got ivermectin and steroids. Within five hours MOST of the joint pain was gone and so was the fever.
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:52 pm to
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150mcg/kg.
~10-15mg for an adult which I guess equates to about 0.5-0.75ml of 1.87% Ivermectin Horsepaste.


ml? or mg? The paste is sold by weight. 6 grams a tube. That 6 grams treats a 1250lb horse.

That would be 6 doses for a 212lb man. So 1 gram per dose?

Now ya'll make fun of my math.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14254 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:54 pm to
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I cannot prescribe and don't intend to, so look up the FLCCDA protocols online. Therein lies your answers to the whole protocol.

Best damn answer I could hope for!

You Sir/Madam are a superior human being and most likely a professional!

Thank you!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135539 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:55 pm to
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this Tiguar idiot
You're a feeler, not a thinker Janet?

Tiguar has never said he is an MD. What he is though is bright and well informed. He brings a professional background to these discussions that you should find scientifically interesting. Whether you like what he's telling you or not, it is generally very solid info. If that gives you the bad feels, too fricking bad!
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6393 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 12:56 pm to
For this to be a one to one the vending machines would need tht treatment for ivermectin poisoning
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