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re: Question about why people are against stimulus benefits?
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:36 am to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:36 am to GeauxTigerTM
For every story of someone choosing not to work because of the stimulus there is a story of someone not allowed to work that needs that money to pay their bills. I know someone who has a good job, 6 figures, has been furloughed for months, luckily they get to keep their benefits and healthcare, but they need cash flow to pay for daycare, food, etc... they’ve got savings but do we really want productive members of society to have to use up their savings to pay their bills because of this crap?
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:37 am to Tiger1242
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I look at this weekly stimulus for the currently unemployed as a necessity for many who lost jobs or are temporarily without work due to this pandemic/shutdown.
Every business has help wanted signs hanging, if the job market was tight it would be a different story.
People should never have the option to [i]choose[/i] to live off someone elses paycheck
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:38 am to Jeebus
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How many of you commenting that are against the amount of stimulus money or stimulus are actually unemployed or laid off right now?
I'm not, and I haven't missed any work besides an hour or two here and there to watch the kids while my wife had to Zoom for work. My answer still doesn't change, I'm still against the stimulus because I'm still against the bullshite shutdown
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:46 am to jchamil
Glad to hear you and your family weren’t affected (financially) by all this mess.
I would venture to say if you did lose your job, benefits, insurance, and you were given the stimulus money to help your family out temporarily you wouldn’t be against it.
I would venture to say if you did lose your job, benefits, insurance, and you were given the stimulus money to help your family out temporarily you wouldn’t be against it.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:48 am to Tiger1242
If you want to kickstart the economy make people go back to work instead of incentivizing them to stay home.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:50 am to momentoftruth87
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Its technically our money
wrong. they are printing new money
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:50 am to Jeebus
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I would venture to say if you did lose your job, benefits, insurance, and you were given the stimulus money to help your family out temporarily you wouldn’t be against it.
You are most likely right, but in that case I would be even more fervently against the shutdown
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:54 am to jchamil
Yeah if they shutdown the country again everyone is fricked
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:59 am to Tiger1242
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they’ve got savings but do we really want productive members of society to have to use up their savings to pay their bills because of this crap?
No...which is why we need to go back to work. We literally can not hide our way out of this virus, and continuing to lock down the economy and cause multiple levels of problems (people being diisincentivised to work, long term devastating effects on the economy thanks to printing money, Americans forced to leave their jobs they want to work at and burning through their savings, small business collapse, etc) only makes thing worse.
I get what you're saying, but I think it's a false choice. It's not that we CAN'T open things back up relatively safely at get people back to work...it's that politicians have chosen not to.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:02 am to Tiger1242
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This is not a thread arguing about whether or not the economy should be shut down, that’s a totally different discussion
No. It’s not different. The two are directly linked.
If the government doesn’t shut down the economy none of this is necessary.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:02 am to Jeebus
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I would venture to say if you did lose your job, benefits, insurance, and you were given the stimulus money to help your family out temporarily you wouldn’t be against it.
Why make that assumption? Could one not be against a handout and for reopening the economy so that they could earn money through their own hard work?
We're simply not in a situation where we thought we might have been when this all started back in March. We don't currently HAVE TO be shut down this much. We're being forced into this.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:07 am to Tiger1242
There are consequences to decisions by local and state leaders as well as the individual. It should not be the federal governments job to provide funds for people not to return to work. They have been given plenty of opportunity and support for nearly 4 months.
It sucks but bankrupting an entire nation to pander and support these people is just ridiculous.
It sucks but bankrupting an entire nation to pander and support these people is just ridiculous.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:10 am to Tiger1242
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For every story of someone choosing not to work because of the stimulus there is a story of someone not allowed to work that needs that money to pay their bills. I know someone who has a good job, 6 figures, has been furloughed for months, luckily they get to keep their benefits and healthcare, but they need cash flow to pay for daycare, food, etc... they’ve got savings but do we really want productive members of society to have to use up their savings to pay their bills because of this crap?
Yea, meanwhile there are young service industry members getting paid more to protest. It's a hard thing to pin down on such short time.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:58 am to Tiger1242
Jealousy. My tax entire tax paying, hard working family has lost over $200,000 so far from this government shut down so I fail to understand why everyone on here thinks the post tax $540 a week should be canceled. Sorry, it’s not our fault we’re shut down and max taxed LA unemployment is $222 a week. Impossible to live on and what temporary jobs allow people to meet their current bills until the government decides to lift the bs?
If people think their income or business won’t be affected by the trickle down of $222 a week unemployment only in Louisiana, they’re nuts. From restaurants, insurance, retail, rental, cable companies, dentists, auto industries are going to struggle even more when people can’t even afford the minimal bills. Food stamps and Medicaid applications are going to sky rocket.
If people think their income or business won’t be affected by the trickle down of $222 a week unemployment only in Louisiana, they’re nuts. From restaurants, insurance, retail, rental, cable companies, dentists, auto industries are going to struggle even more when people can’t even afford the minimal bills. Food stamps and Medicaid applications are going to sky rocket.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:59 am to Tiger1242
The stock market and economy overall would not be where it is today without the extra stimulus. Repubs want to cap the new amount that will be received to 70% of what you were making last year. Sounds fair to me.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:32 pm to Tiger1242
It’s the road to serfdom.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:37 pm to GeauxTigerTM
The vast percentage of people who lost their jobs would take the money. Is that really a crazy assumption? Whether you are for it or against it, once your job is gone, an overwhelming majority would take the money. (minus yourself)
I never said I was against reopening the economy. It should have never been shutdown.
I never said I was against reopening the economy. It should have never been shutdown.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:38 pm to Tiger1242
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Question about why people are against stimulus benefits?
For all the reasons people listed in this thread. It keeps people from wanting to work plus it will drive up inflation even further. There's a reason everything you go to buy keeps costing more and more. In the long term it's not sustainable. Too bad for us most people only think about short term personal gain.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:58 pm to Seldom Seen
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In the long term it's not sustainable.
It’s not a long term solution though, it’s designed to help people in the short term until this crap is over
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