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re: Qatar Force One: Probably Going to Trump Library
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:15 pm to Jbird
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:15 pm to Jbird
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Probably is confusing.
Why would I be confused? I just have to decide who has better knowledge of the situation as of today:
Jbird or President Trump ?
As you can see below, I trust your authority and knowledge on the subject. Therefore, I was sure the aircraft was slated for conversion and retention by USAF based on the article you showed me and your assessment of the situation.
If you're still correct, it's President Trump who is confused. He repeatedly told the nation today that the aircraft was probably going to the Library with him after he left office.
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:18 pm to Jbird
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Special Airlift Mission
89th Air Wing
Much appreciated
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:19 pm to Indefatigable
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Special Air Mission. That’s the AF group that handles diplomatic flights from POTUS down.
Thanks
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:00 am to Jbird
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This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 2:19 am
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:21 am to northshorebamaman
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I used to give morons like yourself some benefit of the doubt. I read all those articles insisting we needed to understand the plight of ignorant trash (again, like yourself) and how sadz you were when industry, technology, and society as a whole moved the frick out of Shitville, Arkansas and that your dumbassery was actually my fault, and I'd think to myself, “Shame on Trump for exploiting these mentally defenseless idiots.”
Someone must’ve roofied my drink with a heavy dose of crazy pills.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:59 am to davyjones
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Someone must’ve roofied my drink with a heavy dose of crazy pills.
I came on a tad stronger than I intended, so I just deleted the whole thing.
I make a conscious effort not to say anything to a stranger online that I wouldn’t say to his face. I think a lot of society’s biggest problems are rooted in how easily we dehumanize each other over the internet, and that post violated my own standard. I wouldn’t have said it to him in person. I think Jbird is a decent guy, and my attack was uncalled for.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 3:11 am to northshorebamaman
And to make such an admission, ie “uncalled for,” or any sort of admission of wrongfulness, is one of the rarest occurrences on this site……so kudos to you for your willingness to do so. Just me personally here, but I tend to think highly of that. 
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 3:13 am
Posted on 9/5/26 at 3:22 am to davyjones
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And to make such an admission, ie “uncalled for,” or any sort of admission of wrongfulness, is one of the rarest occurrences on this site……so kudos to you for your willingness to do so. Just me personally here, but I tend to think highly of that.
Thanks. I’m as prone to fricking around and occasionally trolling as anyone else here, but there’s a line between giving somebody shite and just being an a-hole and I crossed it on that one. Even when I disagree on here, I’m debating in good faith about 95% of the time. That was part of the 5% that got away from me.
Posted on 9/5/26 at 3:26 am to IvoryBillMatt
Its time for you to stop your shtick, Matt
You went to Cal Berkley
You ran for office as a Democrat
You worked for Bernie in 2016
You voted for Bernie 6 years ago
Youre an environmentalist
Predicted Trump wouldnt be allowed to take office in '24
Big fan of Vivek
Hated JD Vance
Supported Perot, leading us to the Clintons (twice)
Keep defending Massie only because he goes so hard after Trump
No one should ever confuse the shite you post on here as trying to right the MAGA ship in hopes of it being more conservative
You dont go from Bernie to Trump, and expect people to buy into the fact that you arent a plant on here. Go away
You went to Cal Berkley
You ran for office as a Democrat
You worked for Bernie in 2016
You voted for Bernie 6 years ago
Youre an environmentalist
Predicted Trump wouldnt be allowed to take office in '24
Big fan of Vivek
Hated JD Vance
Supported Perot, leading us to the Clintons (twice)
Keep defending Massie only because he goes so hard after Trump
No one should ever confuse the shite you post on here as trying to right the MAGA ship in hopes of it being more conservative
You dont go from Bernie to Trump, and expect people to buy into the fact that you arent a plant on here. Go away
Posted on 9/5/26 at 3:42 am to RobbBobb
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Supported Perot, leading us to the Clintons (twice)
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No one should ever confuse the shite you post on here as trying to right the MAGA ship in hopes of it being more conservative
You dont go from Bernie to Trump, and expect people to buy into the fact that you arent a plant on here. Go away
Though it might sound paradoxical because I agree with many of his posts, I strongly agree with this criticism. I’m pretty openly anti-MAGA on this board, but agreeing with someone doesn’t mean I respect the backdoor “I’m one of you guys” or “I’m a three-time Trump voter” routine. If you’re disguising your actual position to win credibility, agreement doesn’t make your dishonesty any more respectable.
And if he really did support him three times, what exactly caught him off guard? He campaigned on sweeping tariffs and explicitly discussed using the National Guard and potentially the military for mass deportations. Before the election, he urged Israel to hit Iran’s nuclear facilities first and worry about the rest later. Tariffs, fricking Sid from Toy Story as secretary of defense, all of it, had unmistakable advance warning.
All his shite has precedents. Selling access to the Oval Office followed years of his private club offering paying members presidential proximity. False claims and childish social-media attacks were already known qualities. Nobody had to predict the recent White House video games to recognize the same juvenile nepo-baby spectacle on display for the past 50 years of his life. The packaging didn't change; the underlying conduct should be familiar.
Supporting something and then expressing outrage when its advertised features materialize doesn’t erase your contribution. You can change your mind. You should change your mind when the evidence warrants it. But “I supported this, and I was wrong” requires accountability. Pretending you couldn't have seen it coming avoids it.
Stand on your fricking beliefs. I have far more respect for someone who openly disagrees with me and owns his position than someone I agree with who disguises his views or rewrites his involvement. Honest disagreement gives people something to consider. Manufactured surprise contributes frick all to understanding how we got here.
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 4:55 am
Posted on 9/5/26 at 11:14 am to northshorebamaman
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Though it might sound paradoxical because I agree with many of his posts, I strongly agree with this criticism. I’m pretty openly anti-MAGA on this board, but agreeing with someone doesn’t mean I respect the backdoor “I’m one of you guys” or “I’m a three-time Trump voter” routine. If you’re disguising your actual position to win credibility, agreement doesn’t make your dishonesty any more respectable.
And if he really did support him three times, what exactly caught him off guard? He campaigned on sweeping tariffs and explicitly discussed using the National Guard and potentially the military for mass deportations. Before the election, he urged Israel to hit Iran’s nuclear facilities first and worry about the rest later. Tariffs, fricking Sid from Toy Story as secretary of defense, all of it, had unmistakable advance warning.
All his shite has precedents. Selling access to the Oval Office followed years of his private club offering paying members presidential proximity. False claims and childish social-media attacks were already known qualities. Nobody had to predict the recent White House video games to recognize the same juvenile nepo-baby spectacle on display for the past 50 years of his life. The packaging didn't change; the underlying conduct should be familiar.
Supporting something and then expressing outrage when its advertised features materialize doesn’t erase your contribution. You can change your mind. You should change your mind when the evidence warrants it. But “I supported this, and I was wrong” requires accountability. Pretending you couldn't have seen it coming avoids it.
Stand on your fricking beliefs. I have far more respect for someone who openly disagrees with me and owns his position than someone I agree with who disguises his views or rewrites his involvement. Honest disagreement gives people something to consider. Manufactured surprise contributes frick all to understanding how we got here.
I'm disappointed in you. I ALWAYS stand on my beliefs. I never hide my beliefs or manufacture evidence. I answer people's questions honestly. I never dodge them.
From what I can see (I don't know him), Donald Trump is a malignant narcissist. When there's a conflict of interest, Trump values what benefits him the most even if it comes at the expense of his wife or his country. He has other personality traits that are endearing. I knew those traits when I supported him for the general elections in 2016, 2020, and 2024.
On balance, the abhorrent traits he has are worth it because his unique personality is just what was needed to turn the nation around. I don't have any regrets about supporting Trump (particularly given the alternatives). I can't think of any policies of his that I opppose.
My only complaints are when he chooses to execute those policies in illegal ways. That's probably never directly Trump's fault. Trump doesn't know or care about the law. He's a developer. That makes him more effective than our many lawyers as presidents.
In Trump 2.0, his legal advice comes from toadies who won't tell the President anything he doesn't want to hear...even when a proposed policy is clearly illegal. Trying to justify broad tariffs under IEEPA, for instance, was clearly illegal...and dumb, considering there were so many other legal options.
When I have time on the opening day of a glorious era in LSU Fighting Tiger football, I will probably respond to Robb's ridiculous assertion that I am a duplicitous plant that hides my TRUE beliefs as part of some nefarious plot to do ________?
Robb got all that information from things I have posted here. Wouldn't a duplicitous plant (to do what, I don't know) actually hide that stuff?
As for Robb's many false assertions and incorrect assumptions, I will just say that I was a Bernie supporter in the Democratic primary in 2016 because I (and many others) thought---as a decades long independent, Sanders---had the best chance to destroy the Uniparty machine that worked against the interest of the American people.
Bernie's policies didn't appeal to my libertarian tendencies, but they weren't completely awful. For instance, I don't remember any woke stuff that he ran on. 90% of his message was economic populism.
I thought his presidency would remove the stranglehold of the Uniparty and create an environment where libertarians could have a fair chance as a political party. I was in Ohio for landman work at the time. I encouraged other libertarians to do the same thing.
Fun fact: the Clinton machine was so diabolically clever that they inserted their own Trojan Horses to become county leaders for Bernie.
After Bernie showed his true colors in supporting Queen Swamp Creature Clinton, my wife and I stayed up all night to watch with glee as Trump kicked her arse. For fun, I still occasionally rewatch videos of liberal shock and tears on election night 2016. (See attached)
As for the topic at hand, three apparently contradictory things can still be true at the same time:
1. I consider Donald Trump to be the greatest president of my lifetime because (not exhaustive or in order):
-creating an environment in which a Biblical worldview has a chance against the current, dominant, Secular worldview (FWIW, I don't think Trump is familiar enough with the Bible to have an opinion)
-exposure of fake news
-disruption of the Swamp
-taking a sledgehammer to wokeism
-closing the border
-removing all illegal aliens
-pro-economic-growth policies
-MAHA, particularly vaccine skepticism and real food promotion
-appointment of young, conservative judges
AND
2. Donald Trump's superpower is that he is incapable of feeling shame or embarrassment. He is shameless in using the leverage of his office for the enrichment of himself, family, friends, and allies. The Qatari 747-800 that he has exclusive use of now and will take with him when he leaves office for any use he wants is a clear cut example of self-enrichment at taxpayer expense. The jet was a bribe to curry favor with President Trump. Duh.
We were smart enough to know that Marc Rich's wife's contribution of MILLIONS to Bill Clinton (through the Clinton Library) and other Democrat causes bought Marc Rich's pardon on Bill Clinton's last day as president.
Why are people playing dumb about this? Trump is far and away the most transactional person ever to become President. For instance, there was a Florida investigation into Trump University. Trump donated $25k to the Florida Attorney General, Pam Bondi. Florida dropped its investigation of Trump University.
AND
3. Knowing this, I am still thrilled that Donald Trump is president. He has reversed our national downward spiral and initiated a bright future for our beloved Republic. I hope he and his family enjoy the use of the magnificent jet for many years. Trump’s personal grift is worth the benefit to the US.
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 9/5/26 at 3:37 pm to RobbBobb
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No one should ever confuse the shite you post on here as trying to right the MAGA ship in hopes of it being more conservative
I don't have any agenda here. The idea that I am some kind of plant (since 2020?) is absurd. I'm not "trying to right the MAGA ship in hopes of it being more conservative." MAGA was never a conservative movement. Unless a member of the Trump family is the Republican nominee, MAGA will shrivel once President Trump leaves office. Donald Trump is literally the one person in America who could have attracted the MAGA coalition and made it a winner.
As for why I post here, I'm mostly interested in learning the truth from people who might know more than I do on a subject and can correct me if I'm wrong. For instance, in this thread, it seems to me that the President is going to use the Qatari 747-800 for personal travel after he leaves office. I was curious what others thought, IF THEY WERE INTERESTED. Jbird and BoarEd have offered some useful push back and some entertaining insults.
I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion on anything. People have had ten years to form their opinions on Trump. Personally, I think he's the greatest president of my lifetime (see post above for reasons). I also think he leverages his office to enrich himself and others in ways previous presidents would never have even dreamed of ---- much less been able to execute.
As for your statements about me, kudos for searching my post history. Addressing your observations individually.....
1) You went to Cal Berkley (nice touch to burnish your ignorance bona fides by not knowing how to spell "Berkeley")
TRUE - I am a High Honors graduate of America's #1 ranked public university. Berkeley was largely responsible for producing the atom bomb. What has your university done for America? My fraternity at Cal was almost completely Republican.
I am also a graduate of the University of Virginia School of Law, far and away the most conservative of the top ten law schools. I was taught at UVA by Antonin Scalia, the most important and influential conservative judicial thinker of the modern Supreme Court.
So, if education is an indication of beliefs, wouldn't my choice of UVA law after Cal mean that I became Conservative?
2) You ran for office as a Democrat
TRUE - Over 20 years ago, I ran for office as a Democrat. The position was non-partisan. I grew up in single-party Louisiana. Almost everyone was a Democrat. I don't think I changed my voter registration even when I worked on Buddy Roemer's (Republican) campaign. I did switch my registration to Republican when I considered running for a partisan position shortly thereafter.
3) You worked for Bernie in 2016
TRUE - i volunteered (no pay) for Bernie in the 2016 Ohio Democratic primary. As explained in the previous post, I supported Bernie primarily as a change agent. That is also the appeal of Trump to millions of first-time voters. That's why many Bernie voters (including me) voted for Trump over Clinton in 2016. The Dems and MSM were appalled by that!
I have volunteered for many Republican candidates. Other than for Bernie once, I haven't volunteered for any Democrats since Louisiana has had viable Republican candidates. (I was just in Ohio for landman work.)
4) You voted for Bernie 6 years ago
TRUE
5) Youre an environmentalist
COMPLETELY FALSE - I am a Biblical Dominionist following the mandates laid out in Genesis. We are to protect and nurture God's creation to pass on to future generations. Man is the most important of God's creations. God created animals for Man's benefit and enjoyment. If there is a conflict between "nature" and Man, we chose Man everytime. We are pro-forestry, oil and gas, hunting, landowner rights, etc.
We laugh at Environmentalists as being crazy.
6) Predicted Trump wouldnt be allowed to take office in '24
FALSE
7) Big fan of Vivek
FALSE - Inititially, like many conservatives, I was impressed with Vivek's intellect and speaking abilities. He called the eventual Dem switch from Biden WAY earlier than anybody. His subsequent and positions regarding H-1B visas soured me on him. I still hope he wins in Ohio.
8) Hated JD Vance
FALSE - Like many, I was suspicious of the sincerity of his belief in Trump given his previous statements about Trump. Other than that, I think Vance is great. At this point, he is my choice in 2028.
9) Supported Perot, leading us to the Clintons (twice)
MIXED - The first time Perot ran, I supported him because I liked the idea of a successful businessman non-politician as president. Remind you of Trump? His political ineptness the first time (I'm not sure he was even on the ballot in Louisiana come election day) disqualified him in my eyes the second time.
As for leading us to Clinton, although I didn't support him, Clinton's presidency wasn't a liberal fest. Along with the Republican Congress, he balanced the budget. Other than judicial appointments, not sure how Clinton's presidency hurt the nation.
10) Keep defending Massie only because he goes so hard after Trump
COMPLETE NONSENSE - I think the major difference between Robb and me is that I can separate policy from people. Massie is one of 435 House Representatives. He doesn't represent me. I don't have the full scorecard, but I think the only three areas of friction with Trump are: full release of the Epstein files according to the law that Trump signed ; cutting wasteful spending ; and, not starting foreign wars, particularly without Congressional approval.
Massie has been consistent and conservative on these issues. Trump has changed his positions on all three. Maybe Trump was right to switch his positions.
What y'all perceive as defending Massie is me just pointing out his consistency. Almost everyone on this Board agreed with Massie’s positions until Trump started to hate Massie because he thought Massie was disloyal. NOW, you have to hate Massie and pretend you were against the positions he supports.
I support Trump. That doesn't change reality. I just point out the hypocrisy involved in conservatives attacking Massie for Massie sticking to conservative positions.
This post was edited on 9/5/26 at 4:46 pm

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