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Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Everything I said can be backed up with facts, but you're ignoring that to create discussions about irrelevant things not being discussed and then citing "trust me bro" and "connect the dot" "sources"
No, it can’t. Everything I posted has been published in actual news articles, you haven’t posted a single fact
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:20 pm to AncientTiger
He’s right.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Another lie.
You’re just too big of a pussy to admit you’d totally support US troops involved in the Russian Ukraine war. Deep down this is what you want to happen and you would totally support it if it did.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:20 pm to Proximo
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The rest of it talks about the west as one entity when it wasn’t always the case.
Well that is why it's used in quotes, my man. Same as "globalists"
They're not used in any uniform way and are malleable for each individual argument.
Which is why on page to when you posted
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It’s weird that you call people NPC’s for discussing the facts
I specifically replied
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Saying the word "globalist" negates this argument.
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For that reason it’s a flawed thought process that gets you to arguing it doesn’t make sense for the USA to initiate the coup.
You don't realize it, but you're arguing against your own argument...again.
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It actually makes a ton of sense if Europe wasn’t 100% on board in ‘13/14. The U.S. installs its puppet and doesn’t need nato membership, problem solved
NATO has nothing to do with 2013/2014.
It was over EU integration, and Europe was REALLY invested in EU integration with UK (and Russia was REALLY opposed to it).
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:21 pm to The Baker
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However. The Eastern Europeans spent 2 generations living under Russian/Soviet rule and they were miserable. That memory isnt going to vanish.
Communism. The leftist ideology is the rest of Europe now, not Russia.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:22 pm to Proximo
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Everything I posted has been published in actual news articles
You haven't posted a legit connection to a "US Coup" with any evidence other than "trust me bro"
You, on page 3
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I mean, connect the dots
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Saying the word "globalist" negates this argument.
I never said the word globalist you idiot. You’ve been trying to dance around it and harp on “globalist” this entire time and I never said that
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:23 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Slow Flow doesn't read.
He types what he heard on MSNBC and The View
big talk from a guy who has continued to melt for 9 pages and refused to answer simple questions
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:23 pm to The Baker
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Your time frame is wildly off. Eastern European states like Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria we're not a part of the Bolshevik revolution.
But that is when all parties were disbanded and the Soviet Union was formed. The first modern authoritarian state was born. And born out of leftism.
And as far as Poland goes, if the war goes another way they stay under Nazi control.
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:25 pm to Proximo
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I never said the word globalist you idiot.
You specifically replied to ap osta bout globalism as follows
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It’s weird that you call people NPC’s for discussing the facts of what caused the war when you don’t have much knowledge of what was happened in that area of the world
Time for another pivot
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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big talk from a guy who has continued to melt for 9 pages and refused to answer simple questions
a typically precise quote from you, on a 7-page thread
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:25 pm to The Baker
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The Eastern Europeans spent 2 generations living under Russian/Soviet rule and they were miserable
You meant Soviet rule, right?
Because Putin is clearly listing things since Russia has done, that helped the EU. Just as the US should never be held to the ills of the United Kingdom of old
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Because I replied to you that you refuse to discuss facts it somehow imparts the globalism argument onto me?
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You haven't posted a legit connection to a "US Coup" with any evidence other than "trust me bro"
I’ve posted multiple articles in this thread and wiki quotes.
Someone else gave you a link to a book because you don’t know what the frick you’re talking about
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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NATO has nothing to do with 2013/2014. It was over EU integration, and Europe was REALLY invested in EU integration with UK (and Russia was REALLY opposed to it).
Let’s see. The United States was REALLY INTENT on Ukrainian NATO membership under Obama (which you didn’t know), yet it was only about EU integration.
You’re admitting you’re ignorant on the subject and don’t realize it
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What was the globalist and Western intervention in Georgia in 2008?
Hmm, I feel like this feels oddly familiar to the Ukraine situation. Let’s see if you can figure out what they have in common.
Georgia-NATO relations Wikipedia
Posted on 3/8/25 at 7:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You haven't posted a legit connection to a "US Coup" with any evidence other than "trust me bro"
Putin accuses US of orchestrating 2014 coup in Op Ed
America's hypocrisy in 2014 coup
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Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, went to Kiev to show solidarity with the Euromaidan activists. McCain dined with opposition leaders, including members of the ultra right-wing Svoboda Party, and later appeared on stage in Maidan Square during a mass rally. He stood shoulder to shoulder with Svoboda leader Oleg Tyagnibok.
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McCain’s actions were a model of diplomatic restraint compared to the conduct of Victoria Nuland, the assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs. As Ukraine’s political crisis deepened, Nuland and her subordinates became more brazen in favoring the anti-Yanukovych demonstrators. Nuland noted in a speech to the U.S.-Ukraine Foundation on December 13, 2013, that she had traveled to Ukraine three times in the weeks following the start of the demonstrations. Visiting the Maidan on December 5, she handed out cookies to demonstrators and expressed support for their cause.
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The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking. Russian intelligence intercepted and leaked to the international media a Nuland telephone call in which she and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffey Pyatt discussed in detail their preferences for specific personnel in a post-Yanukovych government. The U.S-favored candidates included Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power. During the telephone call, Nuland stated enthusiastically that “Yats is the guy” who would do the best job. Nuland and Pyatt were engaged in such planning at a time when Yanukovych was still Ukraine’s lawful president.
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U.S. officials were blatantly meddling in Ukraine. Such conduct was utterly improper. The United States had no right to try to orchestrate political outcomes in another country—especially one on the border of another great power. It is no wonder that Russia reacted badly to the unconstitutional ouster of an elected, pro-Russian government—an ouster that occurred not only with Washington’s blessing, but apparently with its assistance.
SFP to disappear in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
For someone with so much education to be so ignorant to the obvious is incredible. I am in awe. The smartest book sense person I know in this world is my best friends wife. Brilliant in so many subjects. She is also the dumbest person in our social group. She could solve an equation that would bring praise from Einstein himself but cannot plan a simple dinner for four. That is SFP in a nut shell. Very scholarly for legal and dumb as a brick when it comes to common sense. It’s amazing and sad.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 10:33 pm to RobbBobb
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SFP to disappear in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
He is very anti-fact and will refuse to read that
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