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re: Putin Warns ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab His ‘Days Are Numbered’
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:31 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:31 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Russia Open to Dialogue Having Strong Negotiating Position
Despite simmering tension, Moscow has left the door to dialogue open for the West, according to Siracusa: "I think he's made it very clear to the elites that they're going to have to change their view on Russia and even China, because the world they're looking for is one of, he said, cooperation. It's not a sustained conflict. He made very clear to the elites that they're going to have to reconsider and rethink their position and that Russia is prepared to sit down with them."
Suracusa drew attention to the fact that the Russian president "made it very clear to the elites that Russia is not interested in territorial gain in Eastern and Central Europe."
At the same time, "in a reassuring format that is open to dialogue despite the differences, Mr. Putin’s speech showed moderation matched with the determined willingness and capacity to defend the state interests," Raffone underscored.
When it comes to Russia's nuclear capability, Putin did not demonstrate any intent "to deviate from the deterrence approach despite the US not legally abiding to the treaty," the strategic analyst remarked.
"He explained that the Russian superiority in nuclear weapons constitutes a sufficient deterrent to anybody imagining the use of nuclear heads against Russia or threatening the existence of the Russian state," Raffone said.
Moscow feels quite confident on the global stage despite last year's gloomy prognoses in the Western mainstream press. Russia's economy is up and running, the nation's defense industry has expanded, and the goals of the special military operation will be accomplished, Putin stated in his speech.
"There is no situation in which, say, today something would threaten Russian statehood and the existence of the Russian state," the president said.
Russia Showed Alternative Ways for Global Development
Unlike during the post-Cold War period, the world now has alternatives for development, according to Siracusa, outlining Russia's key role in creating these conditions.
"There are two models out there: the BRICS model, which is kind of one model of multipolarity, and the other one is the G7. That's the other model, dominating one," the political scientist noted.
"So international cooperation begins with harmonious coexistence. And if you're not prepared to play that game, and if you're not prepared to leave your arrogance at the door and your misunderstandings at the door, what he's saying is that it's a brand new game. And I also think that the future has actually arrived. And now we have to open our eyes and see that the world has broken down into different groupings, regional groupings and territorial groupings that weren't there before. So we don't have a unipower. We don't have superpowers. We don't have any of that kind of thing. We have a multipolarity which depends on multilateral diplomacy."
Per Siracusa, a brand new age for diplomacy has come and the Valdai conference made very clear that diplomacy is the major moderating influence. The political scientist believes that Vladimir Putin's Thursday speech was written in a very plane fashion and that its message is clear and simple: "If you want international cooperation and peace with Russia, you can have it. And if you don't, you're going to have a problem," the scholar said.
"Russia (and China) supported many decolonization processes and national liberation movements," emphasized Raffone. "The new independent states have been re-colonized using the 'rules-based order' but today many are reacting. The large interest for the BRICS+ shows that today many countries and peoples are looking for concrete alternatives to the West dominated world."
Simultaneously, Putin demonstrated how following into the footsteps of a hegemon could end up for its allies, according to the analyst.
"Mr. Putin has been very gloomy for the European economics perspectives. Much less for the US. The European recession and social difficulties are a fact. The more Europeans will continue to serve the American interests the more gloomy will be their perspective," Raffone concluded.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:33 pm to LSURussian
quote:I read my own posts, schidt for brains
You failed. So, shut up.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:34 pm to teamjackson
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How in the ever loving frick do you people support Vladimir fricking Putin?
We don’t. We just support him not liking Klaus.
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You hate Biden so much that you openly endorse a dicating psycopath with a track record of war crimes?
No. And FTR, W is a huge war criminal. Obama droned and killed more people, many of them innocent, than Putin. And Biden supported, voted for it, was a part of it.
So if we’re going war criminal reference, let’s be fair with it. You need to take that same outrage and call out the US of A.
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a dictator
He was elected. Unless, of course, the election was rigged…
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:35 pm to LSURussian
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Impressive copy and paste job on your part but not a single word of it says the United States or NATO promised Russia/Putin that no former Soviet country or Warsaw Pact member would be allowed to join NATO.
There was no Red Line, or “understanding,” as you claim there was, to bar any country from joining NATO. There still isn’t.
You failed. So, shut up.
Russian, just FYI, this dude is off his rocker.
He's about 3 replies from you away from including you in my alleged army of alters (of posters who have been posting for 10+ years
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:35 pm to Tigers2010a
I hope Putin wipes them out
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:36 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
I don’t blame you for being upset. It’s understandable considering how you’ve made a complete fool out of yourself in this thread.
BTW, you should post a link to the information you copied and pasted. Otherwise you’re plagiarizing.
BTW, you should post a link to the information you copied and pasted. Otherwise you’re plagiarizing.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:44 pm to Tigers2010a
Maybe he can catch up to Klaus on a penthouse hotel balcony.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:48 pm to LSURussian
quote:What was Russia like under Yeltsin. Because IMO, that was our window of opportunity to support democratization and western alliance with them. Instead we expanded NATO, which caught Russia and Yeltsin off guard. NATO expansion and appearances of Russian national weakness was Putin's calling card. Was it not?
I worked in Moscow, Russia and in other former Soviet republics and Eastern Europe, including Ukraine, from 1994 until 2010
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:54 pm to LSURussian
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you can't produce a single document or link which confirms your claim that NATO ever promised Putin it would not allow any eastern European countries to ever become NATO members?
Is this what you are requesting?
From Der Spiegel, with names, dates, quotes.
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document from March 1991 shows US, UK, French, and German officials discussing a pledge made to Moscow that NATO would not expand to Poland and beyond. Its publication by the German magazine Der Spiegel on Friday comes as expansion of the US-led bloc has led to a military standoff in Eastern Europe.
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The minutes of a March 6, 1991 meeting in Bonn between political directors of the foreign ministries of the US, UK, France, and Germany contain multiple references to “2+4” talks on German unification in which the Western officials made it “clear” to the Soviet Union that NATO would not push into territory east of Germany.
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“We made it clear to the Soviet Union – in the 2+4 talks, as well as in other negotiations – that we do not intend to benefit from the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe,” the document quotes US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Canada Raymond Seitz. “NATO should not expand to the east, either officially or unofficially,” Seitz added.
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British representative also mentions the existence of a “general agreement” that membership of NATO for eastern European countries is “unacceptable.” “We had made it clear during the 2+4 negotiations that we would not extend NATO beyond the Elbe [sic],” said West German diplomat Juergen Hrobog. “We could not therefore offer Poland and others membership in NATO.”
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The minutes later clarified he was referring to the Oder River, the boundary between East Germany and Poland. Hrobog further noted that West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl and Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher had agreed with this position as well.
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The document was found in the UK National Archives by Joshua Shifrinson, a political science professor at Boston University in the US. It had been marked “Secret” but was declassified at some point. Shifrinson tweeted on Friday he was “honored” to work with Der Spiegel on the document showing that “Western diplomats believed they had indeed made a NATO non-enlargement pledge.”
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“Senior policymakers deny a non-expansion pledge was offered. This new document shows otherwise,” Shifrinson said in a follow-up tweet, noting that “beyond” the Elbe or Oder by any standard includes Eastern European countries to which NATO started expanding just eight years later.
I’m going to dinner now.
No need for you to try to spin in any responses (like this pledge wasn’t made personally to Putin when he was President so it doesn’t count, etc), just say that this is not true like NATO does.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:55 pm to ThuperThumpin
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It sounds like you want to kill a lot of folks in allied countries as well as some US citizens. Am I reading this right or is there a more sane approach you had in mind in getting rid of WEF influence?
Obviously, a Bin Laden type character gets a 'kill or capture' order. The others don't necessarily need death for destruction to take place.
Arrests, de-funding, things like that, would be a good way to go, and would probably be more effective at destroying than killing, for many people out there.
The WEF wants world depopulation. How do you think they plan to achieve that? Would you prefer I or anyone else send them a sternly worded letter? Do you think people like Klaus will respond to your "sane" approach or do you think people like Klaus would blow that off until forcibly restricted from his grand plan? Normal people use self-restraint to prevent themselves from becoming or doing evil things. Evil people have to be restrained by others. Klaus is evil.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:01 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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JJJimmyJimJames
Thanks for posting so much stuff and that link. I'll give that a read.
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LSURussian
If you were to post a thread with a long history of your experiences, re: Russia, I would be interested in reading and learning some things.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:02 pm to LuckyTiger
The Soviet Union no longer exists. Thus any committments made to the USSR are forever moot.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:11 pm to LSURussian
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t baffles me that so many "patriots" on this board actively yearn for Putin to destroy the United States.
I keep hoping those posters are just Russian bots paid to spread Putin's propaganda.
The board genius has spoken. You poor fool .
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:17 pm to LSURussian
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t baffles me that so many "patriots" on this board actively yearn for Putin to destroy the United States.
Putin doesn't have to do shite....Democrats are destroying the country for him...
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:32 pm to LSURussian
quote:You know. I believe I am beginning to feel pity for you. You are apparently legit retarded - and at least a little illiterate if you cam to that conclusion after hearing the CIA chief/former CIA chief to Europe say precisely what I said he did
Impressive copy and paste job on your part but not a single word of it says the United States or NATO promised Russia/Putin that no former Soviet country or Warsaw Pact member would be allowed to join NATO.
There was no Red Line, or “understanding,” as you claim there was, to bar any country from joining NATO. There still isn’t.
You failed. So, shut up.
So, legit retar, uh developmentally challenged?
But my biggest caveat/takeaway from my search, and thiis is not to you scarecrow - THE FCKG internet doesnt readily go back before 2020 much at all any more.
Has someone stolen the internet? WTH happened?
How are volumes of information to be obtained about those earlier times? I suppose it is just specific subjects instead of general whole subjects.. I am astounded at this
Kids educated after 1995 will never learn the first bit of history and geopolitics
and they are proving themselves victims of the Reagan changes to education
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:35 pm to Tigers2010a
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According to Putin, globalists including Schwab and his close advisors are “legitimate military targets” because they have been actively attempting to seize power illegally via a globalist coup d’etat.

Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:35 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:It was the Wild, Wild West. Total chaos. Russia was trying to develop a non-USSR legal structure but kept failing. So, many “laws” enforced were the old Soviet laws even though the Soviet Union and all of its political subdivisions no longer existed.
What was Russia like under Yeltsin.
That was when I was first introduced to the concept, “Russia’s very harsh laws are made tolerable only by no one obeying them.”
The ruble kept devaluing so much people only wanted to accept dollars and euros (after January 1, 1999). But technically it was illegal to use foreign currencies.
Yeltsin became a useless alcoholic. He could only function in the morning after he sobered up. Then around noon he’d start drinking again.
When Russia defaulted on its sovereing debt on August 17, 1998 (I was in Moscow that day) the ruble fell from 6 rubles to the dollar to 16 rubles to the dollar. That was after the government eliminated 3 zeros from its currency notes the year before. When that happened a 5,000 ruble note became a 5 ruble note. “Just pretend the zeros aren’t on the money.”
So, on 8/17/98, a Sunday, if you went to bed with 600 rubles in your pocket worth $100, you woke up Monday morning with rubles worth $37.50 in your pocket.
The chaos is what brought Putin to power. He had the support of the state police and intelligence community.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:37 pm to Tigers2010a
Holy shite. I really think the US and Russia have switched roles on the world stage since 1990.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:37 pm to LuckyTiger
Thanks Lucky Tiger. I knew that red line of all of Europe, Russia, and the world set that geopolitical liimit and sane doctrine
Could I ask where did you find this? Did you happen to remember it was in Der Spiegel? What search engine/method if there was one?
Could I ask where did you find this? Did you happen to remember it was in Der Spiegel? What search engine/method if there was one?
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:38 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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THE FCKG internet doesnt readily go back before 2020 much at all any more.
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